Posted by The Older Gentleman on June 29, 2009, 4:29 pm
> The Older Gentleman wrote:
> >
> >> But you see, everyone in the US knows that motorcycles are hard to
> >> see
> >
> > Everything is, if you don't look.
> >
> >> And what's your average distance to an emergency room? I saw a
> >> study >
> > way backalong that showed that most of the difference in traffic
> >> fatality rate between the US and the EU was accounted for by the
> >> shorter travel distance to an emergency room that resulted from the
> >> EU's higher population density.
> >
> > I have no idea, and I rather doubt it's an issue. Simply from what
> > I've gleaned on this ng, drink/driving seems to be far less punished
> > in the US than in the UK, and for sure obtaining a car or bike
> > licence in the UK involves some pretty stringent testing: far more
> > stringent thanin the US, from what I can gather.
>
> That doesn't necessarily make a difference though. Testing for a pilot's
> license is more stringent than for a driver's license and yet I've seen
> licensed pilots do pretty bonehead things in an airplane.
True. Fact remains our traffic casualty rate is half yours. And if you
think it's due to superior European medical care, I'd suggest you think
again.
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Posted by J. Clarke on June 29, 2009, 7:20 pm
The Older Gentleman wrote:
>> The Older Gentleman wrote:
>>>
>>>> But you see, everyone in the US knows that motorcycles are hard to
>>>> see
>>>
>>> Everything is, if you don't look.
>>>
>>>> And what's your average distance to an emergency room? I saw a
>>>> study >
>>> way backalong that showed that most of the difference in traffic
>>>> fatality rate between the US and the EU was accounted for by the
>>>> shorter travel distance to an emergency room that resulted from the
>>>> EU's higher population density.
>>>
>>> I have no idea, and I rather doubt it's an issue. Simply from what
>>> I've gleaned on this ng, drink/driving seems to be far less punished
>>> in the US than in the UK, and for sure obtaining a car or bike
>>> licence in the UK involves some pretty stringent testing: far more
>>> stringent thanin the US, from what I can gather.
>>
>> That doesn't necessarily make a difference though. Testing for a
>> pilot's license is more stringent than for a driver's license and
>> yet I've seen licensed pilots do pretty bonehead things in an
>> airplane.
> True. Fact remains our traffic casualty rate is half yours. And if you
> think it's due to superior European medical care, I'd suggest you
> think again.
Read what I wrote again. I did not say anything about "superior medical
care". I said "shorter travel distance". On average, a hospital in the US
serves an area of 441 square miles, one in the UK serves an area of 83
square miles. See why the travel distance is longer? And the longer you
lie there bleeding the more likely it is that you're going to bleed out
before they get to you.
Posted by Who Me? on June 29, 2009, 8:28 pm
J. Clarke wrote:
> Read what I wrote again.
That implies that he CAN read; a fact that is not supported by the available
evidence.
Posted by BryanUT on June 29, 2009, 8:49 pm
> J. Clarke wrote:
> > Read what I wrote again.
> That implies that he CAN read; a fact that is not supported by the available
> evidence.
Oh come on. "On average, a hospital in the US
serves an area of 441 square miles" That average is heavily skewed by
vast areas of the West and Alaska with little or no population.
Very few accidents occur in bum fuck Kansas vs. LA.
Hell I've ridden from Ely NV to Wendover NV at over 100mph and never
passed another car. Is riding 100mph safe in LA? No. Ely to
Wendover, hell yes. It is not only safe, it is required.
Regardless of speed, where I am most likely to have an accident?
Hint: LA.
I am not even sure if either Ely or Wendover even has a hospital. And
Salt Lake is way more than 100 miles away.
Your stat is meaningless.
Posted by Who Me? on June 30, 2009, 9:39 am
BryanUT wrote:
> Your stat is meaningless.
Watch your attributions please.
None of that came from me.
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> >
> >> But you see, everyone in the US knows that motorcycles are hard to
> >> see
> >
> > Everything is, if you don't look.
> >
> >> And what's your average distance to an emergency room? I saw a
> >> study >
> > way backalong that showed that most of the difference in traffic
> >> fatality rate between the US and the EU was accounted for by the
> >> shorter travel distance to an emergency room that resulted from the
> >> EU's higher population density.
> >
> > I have no idea, and I rather doubt it's an issue. Simply from what
> > I've gleaned on this ng, drink/driving seems to be far less punished
> > in the US than in the UK, and for sure obtaining a car or bike
> > licence in the UK involves some pretty stringent testing: far more
> > stringent thanin the US, from what I can gather.
>
> That doesn't necessarily make a difference though. Testing for a pilot's
> license is more stringent than for a driver's license and yet I've seen
> licensed pilots do pretty bonehead things in an airplane.