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One of THOSE toxic damn days... Twibil 09-03-2008
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Posted by S'mee on September 8, 2008, 6:13 pm



SNIP

> >On your present course, you will be the one meant by the saying, "Have
> >you considered that the only purpose for your life could be to serve
> >as a warning to others?"
>
> If I WERE that kind, I believe that the thoughts above alone would
> affect me some. =A0To be such an asshole that the only reactions to your
> death were to be like some of those we saw with another person's
> recent death (won't say who....like there is any regular who doesn't
> know who I mean). =A0 I could imagine a VERY similar legacy in this
> case.

Really? So even though you didn't like him you miss him? I can
honestly say that I never wished him actual harm. Granted I really
wanted to stomp the proverbial mudhole in him. BUT I don't think I'd
have done it... That's just me, odd I know. I also would NEVER wish C
on anyone as that is just cruel.
--
Keith

Posted by Howard on September 9, 2008, 8:01 pm


On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 15:13:43 -0700 (PDT), "S'mee"

>
>SNIP
>
>> >On your present course, you will be the one meant by the saying, "Have
>> >you considered that the only purpose for your life could be to serve
>> >as a warning to others?"
>>
>> If I WERE that kind, I believe that the thoughts above alone would
>> affect me some.  To be such an asshole that the only reactions to your
>> death were to be like some of those we saw with another person's
>> recent death (won't say who....like there is any regular who doesn't
>> know who I mean).   I could imagine a VERY similar legacy in this
>> case.
>
>Really? So even though you didn't like him you miss him? I can
>honestly say that I never wished him actual harm. Granted I really
>wanted to stomp the proverbial mudhole in him. BUT I don't think I'd
>have done it... That's just me, odd I know. I also would NEVER wish C
>on anyone as that is just cruel.


Even after rereading what I wrote, I can't quite figure out how you
interpreted it that way : ) I never said anything about wishing
harm on any of them. I just pointed out that I hope I am never such
a jerk that my legacy is such that people can find at least SOME nice
things to say about me......... and actually Krusty doesn't even
quite make it to THAT point..... when not off his meds, he
occasionally has some good points to make. To me that makes it all
that much sadder...... we know he CAN converse intelligently and have
a positive effect. The fact that he chooses not to is the saddest
part.

Howard 2004 Vulcan 750
DOD #2245
PGR Member
VROC # 18767

A zest for living much include a willingness to die.
R.A. Heinlein

MisterRNremovethis@alltel.net

Posted by S'mee on September 9, 2008, 8:56 pm


> On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 15:13:43 -0700 (PDT), "S'mee"
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >SNIP
>
> >> >On your present course, you will be the one meant by the saying, "Hav=
e
> >> >you considered that the only purpose for your life could be to serve
> >> >as a warning to others?"
>
> >> If I WERE that kind, I believe that the thoughts above alone would
> >> affect me some. =A0To be such an asshole that the only reactions to yo=
ur
> >> death were to be like some of those we saw with another person's
> >> recent death (won't say who....like there is any regular who doesn't
> >> know who I mean). =A0 I could imagine a VERY similar legacy in this
> >> case.
>
> >Really? So even though you didn't like him you miss him? I can
> >honestly say that I never wished him actual harm. Granted I really
> >wanted to stomp the proverbial mudhole in him. BUT I don't think I'd
> >have done it... That's just me, odd I know. I also would NEVER wish C
> >on anyone as that is just cruel.
>
> Even after rereading what I wrote, I can't quite figure out how you
> interpreted it that way : ) =A0 =A0 =A0I never said anything about wishin=
g
> harm on any of them. =A0 I just pointed out that I hope I am never such
> a jerk that my legacy is such that people can find at least SOME nice
> things to say about me......... =A0 and actually Krusty doesn't even
> quite make it to THAT point..... when not off his meds, he
> occasionally has some good points to make. =A0To me that makes it all
> that much sadder...... we know he CAN converse intelligently and have
> a positive effect. =A0The fact that he chooses not to is the saddest
> part.
>

Never said or implied you wished harm. 8^) It's okay sometimes even
when I make sense I confuse me, so in that sense you aren't alone. ;^)

--
Keith

Posted by Road Glidin' Don on September 9, 2008, 12:56 am


On Mon, 08 Sep 2008 18:03:25 -0400, Howard

>On Sat, 06 Sep 2008 18:20:54 GMT, langkd_NO_SPAM@shaw.ca (Road Glidin'
>Don) wrote:
>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Sep 6, 12:56�am, langkd_NO_S...@shaw.ca (Road Glidin' Don) wrote:
>>>
>>>> More likely it's just the case of an embittered, old man who's always
>>>> held those sentiments, with lots of time on his hands, becoming more
>>>> and more invested in his beliefs as he dwells on them, anxious that
>>>> his days might end without him having made a significant mark in life
>>>> and becoming increasingly bold, as he sees that spreading hate
>>>> propaganda doesn't result in a threat to his safety.
>>>
>>>Pay attention, dumbass. What goes around, comes around. Someday you
>>>will personally reap the reward for your Ageism and Gerontophobia and
>>>you will be called "a bitter old man"
>>
>>If I become like you, yes. But that's not likely.
>>
>>You aren't going to live forever, Krusty, and this racist crap you are
>>spouting will be your legacy.
>>
>>Wouldn't it be better to renounce the folly of a life devoted to
>>hating people before they've even done anything right or wrong (on
>>race) and join the company of good men instead? Then, "what comes
>>around" will be the respect normally reserved for those with advanced
>>years.
>>
>>If not, unfortunately, you will continue to be treated as a diseased
>>dog that needs to be put down (in the metaphorical sense), to protect
>>innocent adults and children from what your racist ideology strives to
>>achieve. And, yes, that includes people like my wife and children, so
>>it is personal to some extent.
>>
>>On your present course, you will be the one meant by the saying, "Have
>>you considered that the only purpose for your life could be to serve
>>as a warning to others?"
>
>If I WERE that kind, I believe that the thoughts above alone would
>affect me some. To be such an asshole that the only reactions to your
>death were to be like some of those we saw with another person's
>recent death (won't say who....like there is any regular who doesn't
>know who I mean). I could imagine a VERY similar legacy in this
>case.

Very true. I believe people like Krusty will someday look back at how
they spent their life with regret, once they realize how unfruitful it
was. As with Henry and the other person you refer to, they never
gained a single thing doing what they did; and (like Krusty) they all
tried very hard.

Trying to destroy others, they only destroyed themselves. And as they
saw that, they tried more desperately until that became all they stood
for. What a testiment to waste of life. And what a warning people
like that provide to others.

At the risk of getting too preachy, every one of us will be given
reasons to hate and be bitter at times but, in the final analysis, we
choose how much we let it plan our days for us. If we are unable to
keep thoughts of hate and revenge in check, it will end up denying us
the ability to grow, mature and develop lasting, fulfilled
relationships.

Then, as life goes on and this defect undermines almost every aspect
of life, we will just acquire even more bitterness. It eventually
develops into the age-old foolishness of blaming the world for
everything wrong in our lives.

<dismounting soap box>


Posted by BrianNZ on September 9, 2008, 6:15 am


Road Glidin' Don wrote:
> On Mon, 08 Sep 2008 18:03:25 -0400, Howard
>
>> On Sat, 06 Sep 2008 18:20:54 GMT, langkd_NO_SPAM@shaw.ca (Road Glidin'
>> Don) wrote:
>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sep 6, 12:56�am, langkd_NO_S...@shaw.ca (Road Glidin' Don) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> More likely it's just the case of an embittered, old man who's always
>>>>> held those sentiments, with lots of time on his hands, becoming more
>>>>> and more invested in his beliefs as he dwells on them, anxious that
>>>>> his days might end without him having made a significant mark in life
>>>>> and becoming increasingly bold, as he sees that spreading hate
>>>>> propaganda doesn't result in a threat to his safety.
>>>> Pay attention, dumbass. What goes around, comes around. Someday you
>>>> will personally reap the reward for your Ageism and Gerontophobia and
>>>> you will be called "a bitter old man"
>>> If I become like you, yes. But that's not likely.
>>>
>>> You aren't going to live forever, Krusty, and this racist crap you are
>>> spouting will be your legacy.
>>>
>>> Wouldn't it be better to renounce the folly of a life devoted to
>>> hating people before they've even done anything right or wrong (on
>>> race) and join the company of good men instead? Then, "what comes
>>> around" will be the respect normally reserved for those with advanced
>>> years.
>>>
>>> If not, unfortunately, you will continue to be treated as a diseased
>>> dog that needs to be put down (in the metaphorical sense), to protect
>>> innocent adults and children from what your racist ideology strives to
>>> achieve. And, yes, that includes people like my wife and children, so
>>> it is personal to some extent.
>>>
>>> On your present course, you will be the one meant by the saying, "Have
>>> you considered that the only purpose for your life could be to serve
>>> as a warning to others?"
>> If I WERE that kind, I believe that the thoughts above alone would
>> affect me some. To be such an asshole that the only reactions to your
>> death were to be like some of those we saw with another person's
>> recent death (won't say who....like there is any regular who doesn't
>> know who I mean). I could imagine a VERY similar legacy in this
>> case.
>
> Very true. I believe people like Krusty will someday look back at how
> they spent their life with regret, once they realize how unfruitful it
> was. As with Henry and the other person you refer to, they never
> gained a single thing doing what they did; and (like Krusty) they all
> tried very hard.
>
> Trying to destroy others, they only destroyed themselves. And as they
> saw that, they tried more desperately until that became all they stood
> for. What a testiment to waste of life. And what a warning people
> like that provide to others.
>
> At the risk of getting too preachy, every one of us will be given
> reasons to hate and be bitter at times but, in the final analysis, we
> choose how much we let it plan our days for us. If we are unable to
> keep thoughts of hate and revenge in check, it will end up denying us
> the ability to grow, mature and develop lasting, fulfilled
> relationships.
>
> Then, as life goes on and this defect undermines almost every aspect
> of life, we will just acquire even more bitterness. It eventually
> develops into the age-old foolishness of blaming the world for
> everything wrong in our lives.
>
> <dismounting soap box>
>


Preach on.......You damn neared dragged a 'Amen!' from a heathen. :)

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