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Posted by Bob Myers on September 17, 2008, 10:53 am
> BTW, I'm not making stuff up about Glocks and I try not to be prejudiced.
> There are a lot of advantages, but also a lot of disadvantages. There was
> an officer in Madison Heights, MI some years back who reholstered the
> weapon with his finger inside the trigger well. The leather holster
> forced his finger back against the trigger, and he put a round straight
> down his leg and into his foot. I've gotta believe that would normally
> result in permanent disability.
Yeah, that would definitely be one of those "wow, THAT'S
gonna leave a mark..." moments.
Bob M.
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Posted by David T. Ashley on September 17, 2008, 11:50 am
>
>> BTW, I'm not making stuff up about Glocks and I try not to be prejudiced.
>> There are a lot of advantages, but also a lot of disadvantages. There
>> was an officer in Madison Heights, MI some years back who reholstered the
>> weapon with his finger inside the trigger well. The leather holster
>> forced his finger back against the trigger, and he put a round straight
>> down his leg and into his foot. I've gotta believe that would normally
>> result in permanent disability.
>
> Yeah, that would definitely be one of those "wow, THAT'S
> gonna leave a mark..." moments.
I don't know much about that stuff, but a .40 round would probably destroy
the ankle joint if it entered above it. I'm thinking "crippled for life".
There would just be too much tissue destruction and rearrangement.
Glock now has a huge chunk of big-city law enforcement business, something
over 50% I believe. They really stung S&W economically.
The paradigm of design for those is really interesting.
I was skeptical of a gun made of tupperware (with metal inserts), but mine
has had maybe 2,000 round through it and it is doing fine.
But the paradigm of no separate safety is the most interesting. They have
been described as a revolver with a magazine. I'm a little old fashioned
myself and I prefer a separate safety, but I can really see why law
enforcement is attracted to them. When you are holding a gun on someone
during a felony stop and the felon decides he wants to do more felonious
things, I can really understand the arguments that (a)you don't want a
separate step of flipping a safety lever because it takes time, and (b)it
might be forgotten leading to even more delay, and (c)the first shot should
be very accurate (which is typically not the case with double-actions).
I can see the law enforcement arguments.
However, being a casual user myself, I prefer something a bit more
idiot-proof ...
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Posted by Susan \(CobbersMom\) on September 16, 2008, 8:44 pm
"David T. Ashley" <> wrote in message > You have some involvement with
veterinary medicine?
> I have a Glock 22 and a S&W double-action. Despite what the major law >
> enforcement departments have all done, I don't care for the Glocks, >
> especially carrying them. Those weapons are unsafe without a proper >
> holster. Sticking them down your trousers is really not something I want
> to do, especially the front of the trousers.
Used to work as a vet tech. Poor pay, no benefits, no retirement. But
wonderful dividends some of which are still living with me. Got a 15 year
old terrier mix who can still jump a baby gate and plays like a puppy.
I LOVE my Glock. I put the magazine in but don't chamber a bullet. Don't
want to shoot myself in my sleep. Have a holster and don't have to put it
down the front of my pants. Wouldn't matter though, I shot that thing off
long ago......
Sue
Minocqua, WI
Yamaha '00 VStar 650
'04 TW200 (mud = fun)
Kawasaki '95 Vulcan 1500 V#15937
Feminine Protection:
Light days - Glock 27 w/ Crimson Trace
Heavy days - Ruger Redhawk .44 mag
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Posted by David T. Ashley on September 16, 2008, 9:24 pm
> "David T. Ashley" <> wrote in message > You have some involvement with
> veterinary medicine?
>> I have a Glock 22 and a S&W double-action. Despite what the major law >
>> enforcement departments have all done, I don't care for the Glocks, >
>> especially carrying them. Those weapons are unsafe without a proper >
>> holster. Sticking them down your trousers is really not something I want
>> to do, especially the front of the trousers.
>
> Used to work as a vet tech. Poor pay, no benefits, no retirement. But
> wonderful dividends some of which are still living with me. Got a 15 year
> old terrier mix who can still jump a baby gate and plays like a puppy.
> I LOVE my Glock. I put the magazine in but don't chamber a bullet. Don't
> want to shoot myself in my sleep. Have a holster and don't have to put it
> down the front of my pants. Wouldn't matter though, I shot that thing off
> long ago......
The traditional argument cited for the Glock is that every trigger pull
requires the same force, so qualifying scores, first shot accuracy, etc. are
all better. These arguments are all valid--with a double-action one learns
two sets of shooting skills: one for the first shot and one for all shots
thereafter.
And fewer moving parts, etc.
But to be honest, I've never had a serious malfunction with either handgun,
and mechanical systems are quite reliable, so I'm happier with the S&W. I'm
not a law enforcement person, and I _WANT_ my first shot to be hard.
But as far as ease of cleaning -- the Glock is great.
Just surprised to see someone cite that for "feminine protection". I like
the humor.
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Posted by Susan \(CobbersMom\) on September 16, 2008, 10:22 pm
"David T. Ashley" <> wrote in message > Just surprised to see someone cite
that for "feminine protection". I like > the humor.
Wish I could take the credit. Found that line (different guns) on a site
for women with guns. Laughed so hard and confiscated it for myself.
Sue
Minocqua, WI
Yamaha '00 VStar 650
'04 TW200 (mud = fun)
Kawasaki '95 Vulcan 1500 V#15937
Feminine Protection:
Light days - Glock 27 w/ Crimson Trace
Heavy days - Ruger Redhawk .44 mag
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