Posted by Rob Kleinschmidt on July 17, 2010, 2:11 am
> Anyway there's just one slight problem, the combo wrench.
> The thing is huge. 18" long. I never expected to own
> a wrench this big, unless I happened to acquire my own
> railroad. The problem is the material is almost 1/2"
> thick at the open end, way too thick for it to fit over
> the lower locking nut and clear the top of the steering neck.
> The box end is slightly thinner and not as wide,
> so there would be less material to remove. I'd also
> have to cut it open so as to get it on the lower nut,
> but that would weaken it considerably. Either way
> I'm going to have to remove some material,
> ie with a grinding wheel.
> Well, man is born unto trouble as the sparks fly upwards (Job 5:7)
> and I foresee lots of flying sparks in the near future.
> Maybe there's a easier way, such as buying the proper
> Triumph tool (duh) but I expect it would cost me more than $3.
You really might do better in a Triumph
owners forum.
www.triumphrat.net
When you reassemble it you'll also have to figure
out how to lock the two nuts back together at the
proper torque, so ideally you might have a socket
sized for the job.
Seems like you could simply loosen the upper nut
to remove the pair.
When you reassembled the mess, a stamped wrench
on the lower nut would be ideal if there were enough
clearance.
If clearances wouldn't permit a cheap stamped wrench,
I'd probably use a ground down box end, assuming
that I could align the upper and lower nuts so I
could then remove the box end when I was done.
Posted by ? on July 17, 2010, 8:16 am
wrote:
> When you reassembled the mess, a stamped wrench
> on the lower nut would be ideal if there were enough
> clearance.
It would be rather difficult to find a 38mm stamped wrench that comes
in a motorcycle tool kit, unless you somehow knew the part number.
It's easy to find thin 38mm combination spanners on the interweb
thingy, it's just that they cost about ten times what Sean paid for
the thick combo wrench he has.
> If clearances wouldn't permit a cheap stamped wrench,
> I'd probably use a ground down box end, assuming
> that I could align the upper and lower nuts so I
> could then remove the box end when I was done.
A drop of blue Loctite on the upper nut would secure it, even if it
wasn't quite as tight as it could go...
Posted by Rob Kleinschmidt on July 18, 2010, 12:19 pm
> wrote:
> > When you reassembled the mess, a stamped wrench
> > on the lower nut would be ideal if there were enough
> > clearance.
> It would be rather difficult to find a 38mm stamped wrench that comes
> in a motorcycle tool kit, unless you somehow knew the part number.
> It's easy to find thin 38mm combination spanners on the interweb
> thingy, it's just that they cost about ten times what Sean paid for
> the thick combo wrench he has.
This one runs $18. More than Sean paid, but not
10 times more.
http://www.thinwrench.info/39-38-mm-cone-wrench.html
With a little more digging than I'm willing to do,
I'd imagine a better price could be found too.
Posted by Robert Bolton on July 18, 2010, 2:53 am
>When I started this Triumph Bonneville project
>I didn't know what special tools I would need,
>if any. There were no surprises until I started
>looking at the steering. First of all, the upper
>triple clamp was held down with a big shiny nut
>that looked to be around 1 3/16". However, a 30mm
>socket is slightly smaller and a better fit so
>that's what I bought (for Cdn $6). So far so good.
>Once the triple clamp was off I discovered that
>the steering shaft is bolted to the neck by means
>of an interference fit between two thin (approx 1/8")
>hex nuts, sized 1 1/2".
>I don't have any wrenches that big in my battered
>ex-phone-company-from-their-surplus-store tool box.
>So now WTF was I supposed to do? Well yesterday
>I just happened to be driving by KMS Tools near here
>(in Coquitlam) and I see an in-house inventory clearance sale
>going on in the parking lot. What a stroke of luck.
>I was able to buy a 1 1/2" combination wrench for $3
>and a 1 1/2" socket for $1! Sometimes things just seem
>to fall out of the sky into your lap exactly when you need them.
>(I wish that principle also worked with gorgeous blonde bimbos
>like Paris Hilton *).
Bimbo on lap means trouble for this married guy, but I hear you.
>Anyway there's just one slight problem, the combo wrench.
>The thing is huge. 18" long. I never expected to own
>a wrench this big, unless I happened to acquire my own
>railroad. The problem is the material is almost 1/2"
>thick at the open end, way too thick for it to fit over
>the lower locking nut and clear the top of the steering neck.
>The box end is slightly thinner and not as wide,
>so there would be less material to remove. I'd also
>have to cut it open so as to get it on the lower nut,
>but that would weaken it considerably. Either way
>I'm going to have to remove some material,
>ie with a grinding wheel.
Somewhere in my distant past I've faced a similar problem with a
similar lack of special tools. Maybe I went through this when
screwing around with my Concours' head shake. Can you wedge something
up against the lower nut rather than actually using a wrench to hold
it in place? Tighten the lower, slip on the locking washer (I assume
there's one between the two nuts), snug up the upper nut, wedge
something up against a protruding point of the lower nut while
tightening the upper. A really large plain end screw driver? A
chisel? A file?
>Well, man is born unto trouble as the sparks fly upwards (Job 5:7)
>and I foresee lots of flying sparks in the near future.
>Maybe there's a easier way, such as buying the proper
>Triumph tool (duh) but I expect it would cost me more than $3.
A long time ago I needed a new windshield for my car. A friend and I
went to a glass shop, bought a windshield, borrowed a little tool from
them, and did an R&R in the parking lot. I think my friend knew them
though.
I really think I just wedged something against the lower nut.
Robert
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> The thing is huge. 18" long. I never expected to own
> a wrench this big, unless I happened to acquire my own
> railroad. The problem is the material is almost 1/2"
> thick at the open end, way too thick for it to fit over
> the lower locking nut and clear the top of the steering neck.
> The box end is slightly thinner and not as wide,
> so there would be less material to remove. I'd also
> have to cut it open so as to get it on the lower nut,
> but that would weaken it considerably. Either way
> I'm going to have to remove some material,
> ie with a grinding wheel.
> Well, man is born unto trouble as the sparks fly upwards (Job 5:7)
> and I foresee lots of flying sparks in the near future.
> Maybe there's a easier way, such as buying the proper
> Triumph tool (duh) but I expect it would cost me more than $3.