Posted by saddlebag on August 23, 2011, 5:46 am
> Just because we have all this whiz-bang electronic technology
> doesn't mean we have to use it everywhere:
> http://blogs.wsj.com/drivers-seat/2011/04/30/smart-keys-not-so-smart- ...
> What happens if you lose the key while riding? Does the steering
> automatically lock up at speed?
> I don't think I'll ever forget the time my Harley's tilt sensor failed,
> killing the motor just as I was about to make a left turn across
> oncoming traffic. After that incident, if any of my bikes has one
> it gets disabled.
I like it. It shouldn't be that hard to fix in software. Harley has
been at it for a while now and I haven't heard anything negative.
Beats the hell out of getting dressed only to find your key in your
jeans beneath you jacket and riding pants now that you got gloves on
and you're already 20 minutes late.
Posted by Ben Kaufman on August 23, 2011, 7:42 am
>Just because we have all this whiz-bang electronic technology
>doesn't mean we have to use it everywhere:
>http://blogs.wsj.com/drivers-seat/2011/04/30/smart-keys-not-so-smart-for-motorcycles/
>What happens if you lose the key while riding? Does the steering
>automatically lock up at speed?
>I don't think I'll ever forget the time my Harley's tilt sensor failed,
>killing the motor just as I was about to make a left turn across
>oncoming traffic. After that incident, if any of my bikes has one
>it gets disabled.
>SQ
The solution is simple, they need to follow the 3 Asimovian Laws of robotics.
1. A motorcycle may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human
being to come to harm.
2. A motorcycle must obey rider input given it by human beings except where such
orders would conflict with the First Law.
3. A motorcycle must protect its own existence as long as such protection does
not conflict with the First or Second Law.
Ben
Posted by Rob Kleinschmidt on August 23, 2011, 11:48 am
> Just because we have all this whiz-bang electronic technology
> doesn't mean we have to use it everywhere:
> http://blogs.wsj.com/drivers-seat/2011/04/30/smart-keys-not-so-smart- ...
> What happens if you lose the key while riding? Does the steering
> automatically lock up at speed?
> I don't think I'll ever forget the time my Harley's tilt sensor failed,
> killing the motor just as I was about to make a left turn across
> oncoming traffic. After that incident, if any of my bikes has one
> it gets disabled.
Agreed. I happened to see a filemed interview with Mikhael
Kalishnikov this morning. Best quote in the interview (probably
garbled by me):
That which is useful is usually simple.
That which is not simple is seldom useful.
Posted by The Older Gentleman on August 23, 2011, 1:21 pm
> But I'd be more concerned with the scenario of the steering lock
> engaging while riding.
It's only going to happen when the bars are on full lock, to allow the
mechanical part of the lock to engage, so it's very unlikely to happen
in normal riding.
But yes, it's an issue. Electronic keys are not always a good idea.
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Posted by Stephen! on August 26, 2011, 10:02 pm
totallydeadmailbox@yahoo.co.uk (The Older Gentleman) wrote in
> It's only going to happen when the bars are on full lock, to allow the
> mechanical part of the lock to engage, so it's very unlikely to happen
> in normal riding.
Normal *HARLEY* rider riding, maybe. I doubt I go a single trip without
making a full-lock turn at least once. Typically with the wife on the back
seat.
If you ain't making full-lock turns, you ain't finding the most
intersting of places.
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> doesn't mean we have to use it everywhere:
> http://blogs.wsj.com/drivers-seat/2011/04/30/smart-keys-not-so-smart- ...
> What happens if you lose the key while riding? Does the steering
> automatically lock up at speed?
> I don't think I'll ever forget the time my Harley's tilt sensor failed,
> killing the motor just as I was about to make a left turn across
> oncoming traffic. After that incident, if any of my bikes has one
> it gets disabled.