Posted by Seth Hammond on December 1, 2007, 4:14 pm
> On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 13:30:12 -0500, "Battleax"
>>
>>You don't understand the bike, pretty welds have nothing to do with this
>>bike or it's price.
> That much is apparent. That, and there's NOTHING that
> justifies its price, when coupled with such poor workmanship, other
> than an ego 'name brand' some people like to stroke off on.
>>People spend hundreds of thousands on a Lamborghini or Ferrari and they
>>both
>>have poor fit and finish.
>>
> Fools if they do, then.
> --
I doubt that can be supported. Both cars are hand-built to extreme
tolerances, that is unless tv footage was staged.
Posted by .p.jm on December 1, 2007, 4:37 pm
On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 14:14:04 -0700, "Seth Hammond"
>> On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 13:30:12 -0500, "Battleax"
>>
>>>
>>>You don't understand the bike, pretty welds have nothing to do with this
>>>bike or it's price.
>>
>> That much is apparent. That, and there's NOTHING that
>> justifies its price, when coupled with such poor workmanship, other
>> than an ego 'name brand' some people like to stroke off on.
>>
>>>People spend hundreds of thousands on a Lamborghini or Ferrari and they
>>>both
>>>have poor fit and finish.
>>>
>>
>> Fools if they do, then.
>>
>>
>> --
>I doubt that can be supported. Both cars are hand-built to extreme
>tolerances, that is unless tv footage was staged.
Just to clarify - I was saying - **IF** the F & F are poor (
something I do not know, one way or the other ), people would be fools
to pay the price they pay for them.
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Posted by J. Clarke on December 1, 2007, 6:36 pm
.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
> On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 14:14:04 -0700, "Seth Hammond"
>>
>>> On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 13:30:12 -0500, "Battleax"
>>>
>>>>
>>>> You don't understand the bike, pretty welds have nothing to do
>>>> with this bike or it's price.
>>>
>>> That much is apparent. That, and there's NOTHING that
>>> justifies its price, when coupled with such poor workmanship,
>>> other
>>> than an ego 'name brand' some people like to stroke off on.
>>>
>>>> People spend hundreds of thousands on a Lamborghini or Ferrari
>>>> and
>>>> they both
>>>> have poor fit and finish.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Fools if they do, then.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>
>> I doubt that can be supported. Both cars are hand-built to extreme
>> tolerances, that is unless tv footage was staged.
>>
> Just to clarify - I was saying - **IF** the F & F are poor (
> something I do not know, one way or the other ), people would be
> fools
> to pay the price they pay for them.
They aren't about fit and finish, they're about going like the hammers
of Hell, and that they do.
Ferrari used to be famous for poor cosmetics.
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Posted by ~kurt on December 1, 2007, 7:44 pm
.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com <> wrote:
> On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 13:30:12 -0500, "Battleax"
>>
>>You don't understand the bike, pretty welds have nothing to do with this
>>bike or it's price.
> That much is apparent. That, and there's NOTHING that
> justifies its price, when coupled with such poor workmanship, other
> than an ego 'name brand' some people like to stroke off on.
Just check out the ugly swingarm and welds on this bike that I'm pretty
sure cost a bit more than $75K:
<http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a1/Wr12.jpg>
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_YZR500>
- Kurt
Posted by .p.jm on December 1, 2007, 8:04 pm
On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 00:44:13 -0000, ~kurt
>.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com <> wrote:
>> On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 13:30:12 -0500, "Battleax"
>>
>>>
>>>You don't understand the bike, pretty welds have nothing to do with this
>>>bike or it's price.
>>
>> That much is apparent. That, and there's NOTHING that
>> justifies its price, when coupled with such poor workmanship, other
>> than an ego 'name brand' some people like to stroke off on.
>Just check out the ugly swingarm and welds on this bike that I'm pretty
>sure cost a bit more than $75K:
><http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a1/Wr12.jpg>
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_YZR500>
Kinda hard to see the quality of the welds in those shots,
huh ?
The design of the swingarm is another story. I was not
commenting about the 'attractiveness' or design / engineering
decisions of the Ducati, I was commenting on the display of poor
workmanship ( or rather, I should say 'average' workmanship, it was
not 'poor', really - on a piece of equipment where I think 'average'
is not good enough, for the price charged ). Poor workmanship on a
high-end product ( or any product ) indicates a lack of caring, a lack
of craftsmanship ( expected on high end products, not as much on low
end products ), and leads one to wonder where ELSE they decided to
'not care', and 'not take pride in their work', and not pay attention
to the details. If they don't bother with the details that SHOW, how
much do they worry about the ones that DON'T ? For $ 75,000 I think
they should care a LOT about ALL of them.
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>>You don't understand the bike, pretty welds have nothing to do with this
>>bike or it's price.
> That much is apparent. That, and there's NOTHING that
> justifies its price, when coupled with such poor workmanship, other
> than an ego 'name brand' some people like to stroke off on.
>>People spend hundreds of thousands on a Lamborghini or Ferrari and they
>>both
>>have poor fit and finish.
>>
> Fools if they do, then.
> --