Posted by ~kurt on December 5, 2007, 5:58 pm
Goshhawk@westlink.tw <Vacant> wrote:
> The word luxurious is defined:
Depends on where you look it up....
> - given to pleasure, esp. of the senses; voluptuous
Ducati Desmo RR: Check!
> - excessively ornate; overelaborate
Ducati Desmo RR: Nope. Not pretty by bike streetbike standards (at least
up close), and not excessive by racebike standards.
> - Of a sumptuous, costly, or rich variety
Ducati Desmo RR: Yes for a streetbike, no for a racebike.
> - rich and superior in quality
Ducati Desmo RR: Time will tell I guess.
- Kurt
Posted by Turby on December 6, 2007, 3:05 am
On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 07:03:47 -0400, "Goshhawk@westlink.tw" <Vacant lot>
wrote:
>The word luxurious is defined:
>- given to pleasure, esp. of the senses; voluptuous
>- excessively ornate; overelaborate
>- Of a sumptuous, costly, or rich variety
>- rich and superior in quality
>among other descriptions. In reality it's purpose is to be exclusive and
>rare, owned by a few individuals. It really doesn't matter how exactly it
>may be superior, it's really just bling. I think the Ducati fits, likely at
>the bottom end as at $75000 it's not a lot of money and most anybody who
>wanted one badly enough could manage it.
umm, say what? $75000 not a lot of money? It's more than twice the
per capita income in the US. How many people will pay twice their
yearly income on a vehicle? Any vehicle, much less a frivolous toy?
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Turby the Turbosurfer
Posted by Goshhawk@westlink.tw on December 6, 2007, 6:08 am
> On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 07:03:47 -0400, "Goshhawk@westlink.tw" <Vacant lot>
> wrote:
. I think the Ducati fits, likely at
>>the bottom end as at $75000 it's not a lot of money and most anybody who
>>wanted one badly enough could manage it.
> umm, say what? $75000 not a lot of money? It's more than twice the
> per capita income in the US. How many people will pay twice their
> yearly income on a vehicle? Any vehicle, much less a frivolous toy?
There are a huge lot of people at the low end of the wage scale that bring
down the average wage, and I think we can agree that Ducati is not likely
marketing this to your average retail worker. If you are a skilled worker,
and you really want one, it's not hard.
Posted by J. Clarke on December 6, 2007, 8:22 am
Goshhawk@westlink.tw wrote:
>> On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 07:03:47 -0400, "Goshhawk@westlink.tw" <Vacant
>> lot> wrote:
> . I think the Ducati fits, likely at
>>> the bottom end as at $75000 it's not a lot of money and most
>>> anybody who wanted one badly enough could manage it.
>>
>> umm, say what? $75000 not a lot of money? It's more than twice
>> the
>> per capita income in the US. How many people will pay twice their
>> yearly income on a vehicle? Any vehicle, much less a frivolous toy?
>>
> There are a huge lot of people at the low end of the wage scale that
> bring down the average wage, and I think we can agree that Ducati is
> not likely marketing this to your average retail worker. If you are
> a
> skilled worker, and you really want one, it's not hard.
While I think that there are relatively few who would say that it
wasn't "a lot of money" there are certainly enough who have it and are
willing to spend it to keep Rolls-Royce, Ferrari, Lamborghini, etc in
business. If you put all the options on it you can even run a Hummer
up to about that level.
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Posted by Turby on December 6, 2007, 11:44 am
On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 07:08:43 -0400, "Goshhawk@westlink.tw" <Vacant lot>
wrote:
>> On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 07:03:47 -0400, "Goshhawk@westlink.tw" <Vacant lot>
>> wrote:
>. I think the Ducati fits, likely at
>>>the bottom end as at $75000 it's not a lot of money and most anybody who
>>>wanted one badly enough could manage it.
>>
>> umm, say what? $75000 not a lot of money? It's more than twice the
>> per capita income in the US. How many people will pay twice their
>> yearly income on a vehicle? Any vehicle, much less a frivolous toy?
>>
>There are a huge lot of people at the low end of the wage scale that bring
>down the average wage, and I think we can agree that Ducati is not likely
>marketing this to your average retail worker. If you are a skilled worker,
>and you really want one, it's not hard.
IOW, not "most anybody", just those who make a lot more money than
most anybody. Far less than 20% of Americans make $75000/year. Nobody
will finace a vehicle that's equal to your yearly income. The most
I've ever spent on a vehicle was less than half of my yearly income.
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Turby the Turbosurfer
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