Posted by walt tonne on May 23, 2011, 7:15 am
> ------------------------------
> Date: Tue, May 17, 2011 10:54 pm
> Subject: Biker, 76, must prove he's competent to keep rare weapons at home
> TORONTO SUN - TUESDAY, MAY 17, 2011 9:40:16 EDT PM
> Biker, 76, must prove he's competent to keep rare weapons at home
> BY CHRIS DOUCETTE, TORONTO SUN
> (http://www.torontosun.com/2011/05/17/biker-76-must-prove-hes-competen ...)
> TORONTO - Beating firearms charges seems like it should be a slam-dunk for
> aging biker Johnny Sombrero. But now the 76-year-old gun collector, whose
> real name is Henry Barnes, must also prove he is mentally stable enough to
> keep his 18 machine guns and dozens of other rare weapons locked up in his
> North York apartment. "He's fully compliant, he's done everything right,"
> lawyer David Costa said Tuesday at 1000 Finch Ave. W. court, where his
> client was facing 18 careless storage charges in a potentially
> precedent-setting case. "If anything, this guy is the example for others
> to follow."
> Sombrero is the president and lone remaining founder of the Black Diamond
> Riders, one of the city's oldest motorcycle clubs, and he has no criminal
> record. In January 2010, Toronto Police stormed his apartment and
> allegedly roughed up the senior. He alleges they held him at gunpoint for
> five hours before seizing his collection and charging him for leaving the
> bolts inside his machine guns, even though the weapons were stored in
> lockers.
> Costa argues his client's firearms were all locked, or double-locked, in
> steel cabinets similar to what many gun owners use, with the added
> security of steel bars in the front. The cabinets are stored in a locked
> bedroom in Sombrero's 10th-floor apartment, he pointed out in his final
> submission. And he insists bolts can be kept in a machine gun if it is in
> such a locker.
> A gun expert for the defence has testified that Sombrero met or exceeded
> the requirements of safe storage laws. But the Crown maintains the lockers
> do not meet the criteria of Canada's gun laws, which state such weapons
> must be locked in a vault, safe, or secure room. The size of Sombrero's
> locks, thickness of the lockers and security of the bedroom have been
> questioned by the Crown, who has also pointed out window washers could
> access the locked room on the 10th floor. The Judge, Justice Carol Brewer,
> reserved her decision for a later date because it is "too important of an
> issue."
> One fellow gun collector on hand to support Sombrero said the outcome of
> the case could affect millions of firearms owners across the country. "Not
> just gun collectors but also the old guy who has a shotgun on his farm,"
> he said.
> Meanwhile, police officer Allen Weekes was called upon by the Crown to
> testify in the secondary issue of whether or not Sombrero is mentally
> sound enough to be in possession of firearms. The officer stopped Sombrero
> for running a stop sign in Apr., 2010, and claims that while the accused
> was "quite cooperative," he made some "strange" comments as he talked
> about BDR.
> Weekes testified that Sombrero referred to himself as the "supreme
> commander" of the club, which Sombrero has already explained was an inside
> joke of sorts within BDR. "You can't lead a motorcycle club and keep it
> together for 69 years if you're crazy," one longtime BDR member said
> outside court. The trial continues Friday.
> puevf.qbhpr...@fhazrqvn.pn ROT13
> =====================================
> Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 09:53:14 -0400
> Subject: Re: Biker, 76, must prove he's competent to keep rare weapons
> For some reason I find this situation very difficult to understand
> The Gestapo raids his home illegally , illegally seizes his properly
> stored gun collection , and then the crown ,realizing it has no grounds
> for charges and having been left wide open for a lawsuit amounting
> possibly in the millions of dollars for violating untold number of the
> suspects rights ?
> Why should HE have to prove HIS competence when it never was in question
> before they made up the phony requirement?
> There was NEVER any indication of why they stole his legal property in the
> first place?
> So this means when you hit a certain age that you are guilty of
> incompetence until you prove otherwise ?
> What kind of kangaroo courts are we stuck with here in Canada ??
> It would be more apropos to question the competence of the Gestapo who
> abused him and injured him,(for no reason except they could )? and
> illegally stole his properly stored property>?
> This incident or abuse of power sound like time for another letter to our
> illustrious leader ? but if the past is any indication ? he will ignore it
> like he has ignored all the others.
> So now you KNOW~!!!!!!where you stand.
> oh yes I forgot this little tidbit: OPP officers have been granted an 8.5%
> increase in wages by McGuinty as of today >
> Not like the province is in billions of $ in debt though is it ?
> Could this be a bribe ?? Perhaps McGuinty has visions of public unrest and
> wants the Gestapo on his side ?
> ed/on..... all rights reserved , without prejudice, non assumsit contract.
> --
> **Father to Son in a Facts of Life Lecture**:
> Son, someday you will make a girl very happy,
> for a short period of time.
> Then she will leave you and be with new men who
> are ten times better than you.
> ............These men are called ^BIKERS^........
Douche bag government in the north.
Posted by walt tonne on May 23, 2011, 6:41 pm
> On 5/23/2011 3:15 AM, walt tonne wrote:
> > Douche bag government in the north.
> Thank you for your comments about our Federal Government.
> ps. You're invited to examine the per-capita stats for firearm-related
> deaths and injuries in Canada compared to your country.
> SQ
If Canada was cursed with the black and hispanic populations
their stats would approach ours.
Posted by WaIIy on May 24, 2011, 8:08 pm
>On 5/23/2011 3:15 AM, walt tonne wrote:
>> Douche bag government in the north.
>Thank you for your comments about our Federal Government.
>ps. You're invited to examine the per-capita stats for firearm-related
>deaths and injuries in Canada compared to your country.
>SQ
You gave up your individualfreedom long ago. You're choice.
Oh, if it wasn't for us, you'd be speaking Japanese.
Posted by The Older Gentleman on May 24, 2011, 8:57 pm
> Oh, if it wasn't for us, you'd be speaking Japanese.
Oh dear, oh dear.
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can-do attitude and a set of cheap tools
Posted by tomorrow@erols.com on May 24, 2011, 9:18 pm
On May 24, 8:57 pm, totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk (The Older
Gentleman) wrote:
> > Oh, if it wasn't for us, you'd be speaking Japanese.
> Oh dear, oh dear.
But, at least he thinks Sean is choice!!!
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> Date: Tue, May 17, 2011 10:54 pm
> Subject: Biker, 76, must prove he's competent to keep rare weapons at home
> TORONTO SUN - TUESDAY, MAY 17, 2011 9:40:16 EDT PM
> Biker, 76, must prove he's competent to keep rare weapons at home
> BY CHRIS DOUCETTE, TORONTO SUN
> (http://www.torontosun.com/2011/05/17/biker-76-must-prove-hes-competen ...)
> TORONTO - Beating firearms charges seems like it should be a slam-dunk for
> aging biker Johnny Sombrero. But now the 76-year-old gun collector, whose
> real name is Henry Barnes, must also prove he is mentally stable enough to
> keep his 18 machine guns and dozens of other rare weapons locked up in his
> North York apartment. "He's fully compliant, he's done everything right,"
> lawyer David Costa said Tuesday at 1000 Finch Ave. W. court, where his
> client was facing 18 careless storage charges in a potentially
> precedent-setting case. "If anything, this guy is the example for others
> to follow."
> Sombrero is the president and lone remaining founder of the Black Diamond
> Riders, one of the city's oldest motorcycle clubs, and he has no criminal
> record. In January 2010, Toronto Police stormed his apartment and
> allegedly roughed up the senior. He alleges they held him at gunpoint for
> five hours before seizing his collection and charging him for leaving the
> bolts inside his machine guns, even though the weapons were stored in
> lockers.
> Costa argues his client's firearms were all locked, or double-locked, in
> steel cabinets similar to what many gun owners use, with the added
> security of steel bars in the front. The cabinets are stored in a locked
> bedroom in Sombrero's 10th-floor apartment, he pointed out in his final
> submission. And he insists bolts can be kept in a machine gun if it is in
> such a locker.
> A gun expert for the defence has testified that Sombrero met or exceeded
> the requirements of safe storage laws. But the Crown maintains the lockers
> do not meet the criteria of Canada's gun laws, which state such weapons
> must be locked in a vault, safe, or secure room. The size of Sombrero's
> locks, thickness of the lockers and security of the bedroom have been
> questioned by the Crown, who has also pointed out window washers could
> access the locked room on the 10th floor. The Judge, Justice Carol Brewer,
> reserved her decision for a later date because it is "too important of an
> issue."
> One fellow gun collector on hand to support Sombrero said the outcome of
> the case could affect millions of firearms owners across the country. "Not
> just gun collectors but also the old guy who has a shotgun on his farm,"
> he said.
> Meanwhile, police officer Allen Weekes was called upon by the Crown to
> testify in the secondary issue of whether or not Sombrero is mentally
> sound enough to be in possession of firearms. The officer stopped Sombrero
> for running a stop sign in Apr., 2010, and claims that while the accused
> was "quite cooperative," he made some "strange" comments as he talked
> about BDR.
> Weekes testified that Sombrero referred to himself as the "supreme
> commander" of the club, which Sombrero has already explained was an inside
> joke of sorts within BDR. "You can't lead a motorcycle club and keep it
> together for 69 years if you're crazy," one longtime BDR member said
> outside court. The trial continues Friday.
> puevf.qbhpr...@fhazrqvn.pn ROT13
> =====================================
> Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 09:53:14 -0400
> Subject: Re: Biker, 76, must prove he's competent to keep rare weapons
> For some reason I find this situation very difficult to understand
> The Gestapo raids his home illegally , illegally seizes his properly
> stored gun collection , and then the crown ,realizing it has no grounds
> for charges and having been left wide open for a lawsuit amounting
> possibly in the millions of dollars for violating untold number of the
> suspects rights ?
> Why should HE have to prove HIS competence when it never was in question
> before they made up the phony requirement?
> There was NEVER any indication of why they stole his legal property in the
> first place?
> So this means when you hit a certain age that you are guilty of
> incompetence until you prove otherwise ?
> What kind of kangaroo courts are we stuck with here in Canada ??
> It would be more apropos to question the competence of the Gestapo who
> abused him and injured him,(for no reason except they could )? and
> illegally stole his properly stored property>?
> This incident or abuse of power sound like time for another letter to our
> illustrious leader ? but if the past is any indication ? he will ignore it
> like he has ignored all the others.
> So now you KNOW~!!!!!!where you stand.
> oh yes I forgot this little tidbit: OPP officers have been granted an 8.5%
> increase in wages by McGuinty as of today >
> Not like the province is in billions of $ in debt though is it ?
> Could this be a bribe ?? Perhaps McGuinty has visions of public unrest and
> wants the Gestapo on his side ?
> ed/on..... all rights reserved , without prejudice, non assumsit contract.
> --
> **Father to Son in a Facts of Life Lecture**:
> Son, someday you will make a girl very happy,
> for a short period of time.
> Then she will leave you and be with new men who
> are ten times better than you.
> ............These men are called ^BIKERS^........