Posted by Beav on July 30, 2008, 5:37 pm
> In article
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I heard a radio prog a few years ago about how you can hear the origins
>> > of the English/Scottish/Welsh/Irish regional accents still in the
>> > dialects of various rural parts of the US.
>>
>> Used to be true, but regional accents are rapidly becoming a thing of
>> the past in the US.
>>
>> With the population being as fluid as it's been for the last 50 years
>> it's unusual to meet someone who's lived in the same place all their
>> life, and with radio and TV broadcasters all pretty much speaking
>> uniform "California" English -which is the same as midwestern English,
>> but spoken a little faster- it's getting more and more difficult to
>> pin down an American's origins by his accent.
>>
>> I was born and raised in Texas, and it took me almost twenty years
>> before people in other places stopped noticing my drawl, but the
>> guitar player in our band is an Austin boy twenty years my junior and
>> he has almost no Texas accent at all, and never did.
> Same phenomenon here in France. I have a Parisian accent, but friends
> from Avignon, Brest, Lens etc., have nothing that you can pin down as
> being a regional accent.
Yeah, but you cultivated your accent in an attempt to prove you're a frog.
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Posted by yitzhak isaac goldstein on July 30, 2008, 5:51 pm
> > In article
> >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I heard a radio prog a few years ago about how you can hear the origins
> >> > of the English/Scottish/Welsh/Irish regional accents still in the
> >> > dialects of various rural parts of the US.
> >>
> >> Used to be true, but regional accents are rapidly becoming a thing of
> >> the past in the US.
> >>
> >> With the population being as fluid as it's been for the last 50 years
> >> it's unusual to meet someone who's lived in the same place all their
> >> life, and with radio and TV broadcasters all pretty much speaking
> >> uniform "California" English -which is the same as midwestern English,
> >> but spoken a little faster- it's getting more and more difficult to
> >> pin down an American's origins by his accent.
> >>
> >> I was born and raised in Texas, and it took me almost twenty years
> >> before people in other places stopped noticing my drawl, but the
> >> guitar player in our band is an Austin boy twenty years my junior and
> >> he has almost no Texas accent at all, and never did.
> >
> > Same phenomenon here in France. I have a Parisian accent, but friends
> > from Avignon, Brest, Lens etc., have nothing that you can pin down as
> > being a regional accent.
>
> Yeah, but you cultivated your accent in an attempt to prove you're a frog.
Nice troll, but I didn't, actually. I was never aware of having
'cultivated' any accent. When I did my year in Lyon as a foreign
language assistant, the prospect of living her permanently hadn't
occurred to me, yet people with whom I talked, often thought I was
Parisian. Then again, in English some people think I have an Irish
accent, so that just about deals with the notion that accents are easy
to discern. :-|
D.
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Posted by Beav on August 3, 2008, 7:06 pm
>> > In article
>> >
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > I heard a radio prog a few years ago about how you can hear the
>> >> > origins
>> >> > of the English/Scottish/Welsh/Irish regional accents still in the
>> >> > dialects of various rural parts of the US.
>> >>
>> >> Used to be true, but regional accents are rapidly becoming a thing of
>> >> the past in the US.
>> >>
>> >> With the population being as fluid as it's been for the last 50 years
>> >> it's unusual to meet someone who's lived in the same place all their
>> >> life, and with radio and TV broadcasters all pretty much speaking
>> >> uniform "California" English -which is the same as midwestern English,
>> >> but spoken a little faster- it's getting more and more difficult to
>> >> pin down an American's origins by his accent.
>> >>
>> >> I was born and raised in Texas, and it took me almost twenty years
>> >> before people in other places stopped noticing my drawl, but the
>> >> guitar player in our band is an Austin boy twenty years my junior and
>> >> he has almost no Texas accent at all, and never did.
>> >
>> > Same phenomenon here in France. I have a Parisian accent, but friends
>> > from Avignon, Brest, Lens etc., have nothing that you can pin down as
>> > being a regional accent.
>>
>> Yeah, but you cultivated your accent in an attempt to prove you're a
>> frog.
> Nice troll, but I didn't, actually. I was never aware of having
> 'cultivated' any accent. When I did my year in Lyon as a foreign
> language assistant, the prospect of living her permanently hadn't
> occurred to me, yet people with whom I talked, often thought I was
> Parisian.
And? I speak Swedish with a Vestmalands (phonetic spelling) accent according
to people I've talked with. People who thought I was Swedish. It dsoesn't
make me Swedish though and it doesn't make me tell people I am either.
> Then again, in English some people think I have an Irish
> accent,
They KNOW you have, not "think".
> so that just about deals with the notion that accents are easy
> to discern. :-|
It does no such thing at all.
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Posted by yitzhak isaac goldstein on August 3, 2008, 7:12 pm
> >> Yeah, but you cultivated your accent in an attempt to prove you're a
> >> frog.
> >
> > Nice troll, but I didn't, actually. I was never aware of having
> > 'cultivated' any accent. When I did my year in Lyon as a foreign
> > language assistant, the prospect of living her permanently hadn't
> > occurred to me, yet people with whom I talked, often thought I was
> > Parisian.
>
> And? I speak Swedish with a Vestmalands (phonetic spelling) accent according
> to people I've talked with. People who thought I was Swedish. It dsoesn't
> make me Swedish though and it doesn't make me tell people I am either.
What is your premise here?
> > Then again, in English some people think I have an Irish
> > accent,
>
> They KNOW you have, not "think".
No, they don't for I do not have a trace of an Irish accent.
> > so that just about deals with the notion that accents are easy
> > to discern. :-|
>
> It does no such thing at all.
Yes it does.
D.
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'AADP's Left-Wing Jewish Intellectual'
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Posted by des on August 3, 2008, 7:13 pm
Fuck, it happened again ....
D.
> >> Yeah, but you cultivated your accent in an attempt to prove you're a
> >> frog.
> >
> > Nice troll, but I didn't, actually. I was never aware of having
> > 'cultivated' any accent. When I did my year in Lyon as a foreign
> > language assistant, the prospect of living her permanently hadn't
> > occurred to me, yet people with whom I talked, often thought I was
> > Parisian.
>
> And? I speak Swedish with a Vestmalands (phonetic spelling) accent according
> to people I've talked with. People who thought I was Swedish. It dsoesn't
> make me Swedish though and it doesn't make me tell people I am either.
What is your premise here?
> > Then again, in English some people think I have an Irish
> > accent,
>
> They KNOW you have, not "think".
No, they don't for I do not have a trace of an Irish accent.
> > so that just about deals with the notion that accents are easy
> > to discern. :-|
>
> It does no such thing at all.
Yes it does.
D.
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>> wrote:
>>
>> > I heard a radio prog a few years ago about how you can hear the origins
>> > of the English/Scottish/Welsh/Irish regional accents still in the
>> > dialects of various rural parts of the US.
>>
>> Used to be true, but regional accents are rapidly becoming a thing of
>> the past in the US.
>>
>> With the population being as fluid as it's been for the last 50 years
>> it's unusual to meet someone who's lived in the same place all their
>> life, and with radio and TV broadcasters all pretty much speaking
>> uniform "California" English -which is the same as midwestern English,
>> but spoken a little faster- it's getting more and more difficult to
>> pin down an American's origins by his accent.
>>
>> I was born and raised in Texas, and it took me almost twenty years
>> before people in other places stopped noticing my drawl, but the
>> guitar player in our band is an Austin boy twenty years my junior and
>> he has almost no Texas accent at all, and never did.
> Same phenomenon here in France. I have a Parisian accent, but friends
> from Avignon, Brest, Lens etc., have nothing that you can pin down as
> being a regional accent.