Posted by des on July 30, 2008, 5:52 pm
> > In article
> >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I heard a radio prog a few years ago about how you can hear the origins
> >> > of the English/Scottish/Welsh/Irish regional accents still in the
> >> > dialects of various rural parts of the US.
> >>
> >> Used to be true, but regional accents are rapidly becoming a thing of
> >> the past in the US.
> >>
> >> With the population being as fluid as it's been for the last 50 years
> >> it's unusual to meet someone who's lived in the same place all their
> >> life, and with radio and TV broadcasters all pretty much speaking
> >> uniform "California" English -which is the same as midwestern English,
> >> but spoken a little faster- it's getting more and more difficult to
> >> pin down an American's origins by his accent.
> >>
> >> I was born and raised in Texas, and it took me almost twenty years
> >> before people in other places stopped noticing my drawl, but the
> >> guitar player in our band is an Austin boy twenty years my junior and
> >> he has almost no Texas accent at all, and never did.
> >
> > Same phenomenon here in France. I have a Parisian accent, but friends
> > from Avignon, Brest, Lens etc., have nothing that you can pin down as
> > being a regional accent.
>
> Yeah, but you cultivated your accent in an attempt to prove you're a frog.
Nice troll, but I didn't, actually. I was never aware of having
'cultivated' any accent. When I did my year in Lyon as a foreign
language assistant, the prospect of living her permanently hadn't
occurred to me, yet people with whom I talked, often thought I was
Parisian. Then again, in English some people think I have an Irish
accent, so that just about deals with the notion that accents are easy
to discern. :-|
D.
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Posted by Beav on August 3, 2008, 7:08 pm
>> > In article
>> >
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > I heard a radio prog a few years ago about how you can hear the
>> >> > origins
>> >> > of the English/Scottish/Welsh/Irish regional accents still in the
>> >> > dialects of various rural parts of the US.
>> >>
>> >> Used to be true, but regional accents are rapidly becoming a thing of
>> >> the past in the US.
>> >>
>> >> With the population being as fluid as it's been for the last 50 years
>> >> it's unusual to meet someone who's lived in the same place all their
>> >> life, and with radio and TV broadcasters all pretty much speaking
>> >> uniform "California" English -which is the same as midwestern English,
>> >> but spoken a little faster- it's getting more and more difficult to
>> >> pin down an American's origins by his accent.
>> >>
>> >> I was born and raised in Texas, and it took me almost twenty years
>> >> before people in other places stopped noticing my drawl, but the
>> >> guitar player in our band is an Austin boy twenty years my junior and
>> >> he has almost no Texas accent at all, and never did.
>> >
>> > Same phenomenon here in France. I have a Parisian accent, but friends
>> > from Avignon, Brest, Lens etc., have nothing that you can pin down as
>> > being a regional accent.
>>
>> Yeah, but you cultivated your accent in an attempt to prove you're a
>> frog.
> Nice troll, but I didn't, actually. I was never aware of having
> 'cultivated' any accent. When I did my year in Lyon as a foreign
> language assistant, the prospect of living her permanently hadn't
> occurred to me, yet people with whom I talked, often thought I was
> Parisian. Then again, in English some people think I have an Irish
> accent, so that just about deals with the notion that accents are easy
> to discern. :-|
Is it necessary to post the same response twice using a different name, or
are you THAT desperate to be read?
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Posted by des on August 3, 2008, 7:10 pm
> > Nice troll, but I didn't, actually. I was never aware of having
> > 'cultivated' any accent. When I did my year in Lyon as a foreign
> > language assistant, the prospect of living her permanently hadn't
> > occurred to me, yet people with whom I talked, often thought I was
> > Parisian. Then again, in English some people think I have an Irish
> > accent, so that just about deals with the notion that accents are easy
> > to discern. :-|
>
> Is it necessary to post the same response twice using a different name, or
> are you THAT desperate to be read?
My newsreader is programmed to select the 'identity' based on the
newsgroup. It posts to AADP as 'Yitzhak Goldstein' and as 'des' here on
UKRM. When it doesn't find the newsgroup, or when two confuse it, it
falls back onto the 'default' identity, which is the one I use to post
to AADP.
In the case of the double post, the second one was supposed to (and
indeed did, on news.free.fr) supercede the first, and was made after I
realised my error.
HTH.
D.
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> >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I heard a radio prog a few years ago about how you can hear the origins
> >> > of the English/Scottish/Welsh/Irish regional accents still in the
> >> > dialects of various rural parts of the US.
> >>
> >> Used to be true, but regional accents are rapidly becoming a thing of
> >> the past in the US.
> >>
> >> With the population being as fluid as it's been for the last 50 years
> >> it's unusual to meet someone who's lived in the same place all their
> >> life, and with radio and TV broadcasters all pretty much speaking
> >> uniform "California" English -which is the same as midwestern English,
> >> but spoken a little faster- it's getting more and more difficult to
> >> pin down an American's origins by his accent.
> >>
> >> I was born and raised in Texas, and it took me almost twenty years
> >> before people in other places stopped noticing my drawl, but the
> >> guitar player in our band is an Austin boy twenty years my junior and
> >> he has almost no Texas accent at all, and never did.
> >
> > Same phenomenon here in France. I have a Parisian accent, but friends
> > from Avignon, Brest, Lens etc., have nothing that you can pin down as
> > being a regional accent.
>
> Yeah, but you cultivated your accent in an attempt to prove you're a frog.