Posted by Dean Hoffman on November 21, 2006, 9:45 pm
> > Biodiesel is discussed fairly often on the sci.energy
> > newsgroup. It won't have a real big impact if those guys are right.
> > There just isn't enough farm ground to produce enough. There's a huge
> > gap between what we use and what biodiesel could possibly supply.
> >
>
> Actually I have to disagree.
>
> Your not going to find biodiesel replacing gasoline but your going to find
> it
> in key areas. For example, long haul trucking that runs on regular diesel
> now.
>
> When we eventually do run out of cheap oil your going to see vehicles
> end up using 3 power sources. Electricity, biodiesel, and alcohol.
> Electric
> cars will be common where the use is commuting or driving around the
> cities. Biodiesel will be used for heavy vehicle traffic such as
> construction
> machinery, local trucking from a distribution point, farming equipment.
> Alcohol will
> be used in smaller engines like that in a motorcycle, or a lawnmower or
> chainsaw where the weight of the engine is important and makes biodiesel
> unfeasible. Biodiesel will probably be grown hydroponically in tanks
> where the material can be stacked, using grow lights to force the plant
> growth to grow as fast as possible. The electric power to run all of this
> will be mostly wind generated.
>
> Your also probably going to see passenger aircraft become mostly
> uneconomical and be replaced by electric bullet trains and such. Air travel
> will
> still be used for international flights but the cost of fuel will make
> ticket
> prices much much higher. And your probably also going to see a lot of
> long haul trucking disappear and be replaced by electric rail, even for
> freight.
>
> Ted
There is an article here about using algae to produce the
biodiesel: http://tinyurl.com/2sbbf I guess it would be possible to
grow our fuel using this method. One of the posters on the sci.energy
group said nothing much is happening with the algae though. Not much in
the way of pilot projects and such starting.
There are a lot of railroad tracks being pulled up here in Nebraska.
Trucks haul a lot of the grain. The railroads won't haul it unless the
elevator can load a complete train, I guess.
Dean
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Posted by Steve T on February 3, 2007, 2:11 pm
ciwkisfkgysg@yahoo.com wrote:
:What kind of difference can the use biodiesel make when it comes to
:changing the world for the better? Perhaps the biggest impact of the
:use of biodiesel fuel instead of just plain diesel is on the human
:health and the environment.
I call bullshit. If we planted every acre of the US with biodiesel
fodder, it wouldn't make enough fuel to go around and we would
starve to death.
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Posted by Stephen! on February 4, 2007, 12:21 am
ciwkisfkgysg@yahoo.com wrote in news:1170502788.090882.233260
@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com:
> Can biodiesel make more energy? Unlike the burning of fossil fuels,
> the burning biodiesel fuels actually gives back more energy to the
> environment that it takes.
Really? You've found a way to create energy, eh?
*cough*BULLSHIT*cough*
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Posted by Stupendous Man on February 4, 2007, 10:58 am
> Really? You've found a way to create energy, eh?
Check this out. I know i will be cashing in all my soda cans to get in on
this!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item 0074994651&fromMakeTrack=true
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Posted by Venture Rider on February 4, 2007, 11:35 am
On Sun, 4 Feb 2007 07:58:20 -0800, Stupendous Man said:
>> Really? You've found a way to create energy, eh?
> Check this out. I know i will be cashing in all my soda cans to get in on
>this!
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item 0074994651&fromMakeTrack=true
You can tell it's all true. For example:
"because it uses weights, it can be used in space"
It's pretty amazing stuff!
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> > newsgroup. It won't have a real big impact if those guys are right.
> > There just isn't enough farm ground to produce enough. There's a huge
> > gap between what we use and what biodiesel could possibly supply.
> >
>
> Actually I have to disagree.
>
> Your not going to find biodiesel replacing gasoline but your going to find
> it
> in key areas. For example, long haul trucking that runs on regular diesel
> now.
>
> When we eventually do run out of cheap oil your going to see vehicles
> end up using 3 power sources. Electricity, biodiesel, and alcohol.
> Electric
> cars will be common where the use is commuting or driving around the
> cities. Biodiesel will be used for heavy vehicle traffic such as
> construction
> machinery, local trucking from a distribution point, farming equipment.
> Alcohol will
> be used in smaller engines like that in a motorcycle, or a lawnmower or
> chainsaw where the weight of the engine is important and makes biodiesel
> unfeasible. Biodiesel will probably be grown hydroponically in tanks
> where the material can be stacked, using grow lights to force the plant
> growth to grow as fast as possible. The electric power to run all of this
> will be mostly wind generated.
>
> Your also probably going to see passenger aircraft become mostly
> uneconomical and be replaced by electric bullet trains and such. Air travel
> will
> still be used for international flights but the cost of fuel will make
> ticket
> prices much much higher. And your probably also going to see a lot of
> long haul trucking disappear and be replaced by electric rail, even for
> freight.
>
> Ted