Posted by .p.jm on June 18, 2008, 1:00 pm
wrote:
>On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 07:21:41 -0500, Chuck Rhode
>>On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 14:22:26 -0700, Turby wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 14:48:33 -0500, Chuck Rhode
>>
>>>>I have the TV on all morning, and I have to listen to the women talk
>>>>over each other. Today I learned that the US is the only country in
>>>>the world that doesn't mandate *paid* maternity leave of employers.
>>
>>> Somehow I don't think that's true in Chad.
>>
>>Somebody in Chad pays new mothers 50% of their salary for 14 weeks.
Which is a total of ~ $ 1.50 USD.
>>
>>o "Parental Leave." Wikipedia. 11 June 2008. 18 June 2008
>><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parental_leave> .
>And THAT, friends, is why Wikipedia has such a lousy reputation as an
>authoritative source. The whole article is ludicrous. I think whoever
>wrote it just listed all the countries and picked numbers out of a
>hat.
>FWIW, Chad is one of the poorest countries in the world. Per capita
>income is less than $1500 per year. Most people are subsistance
>farmers or herders. Government is a dictatorship. Women are chattel,
>and polygamy and female circumcision are rampant. The idea that women
>get 50% of their salary is a sick joke.
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Posted by Chuck Rhode on June 20, 2008, 12:30 am
On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:27:24 -0700, Turby wrote:
> FWIW, Chad is one of the poorest countries in the world. Per capita
> income is less than $1500 per year. Most people are subsistance
> farmers or herders. Government is a dictatorship. Women are chattel,
> and polygamy and female circumcision are rampant. The idea that
> women get 50% of their salary is a sick joke.
Yeah, well, suppose we had that same regulation here[1]. Would it
apply to small businesses? I think not! ... so I suppose we *could*
fall into step if it wasn't going to apply to any very great portion
of the work force or cost us any more that it costs the rest of the
Third World. Then the panelists on _The View_ would have to think up
something else to discuss.
When I was in college, lo these many years ago, the Student Housing
Department promoted a scheme whereby a tenant could check off one meal
a week as a donation to Third World Hunger. I suppose it saved the
University quite a bit more in food-service salaries than in food, but
it was easier for independently thinking students to swallow the
indignity than protest the stupidity. I note that Halls of Residence
approached the students themselves for the donation rather than their
parents.
[1] I suppose that was the point of the Wikipedia entry.
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Posted by Turby on June 20, 2008, 3:14 am
On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:30:27 -0500, Chuck Rhode
>[1] I suppose that was the point of the Wikipedia entry.
That's the problem. An encyclopedia shouldn't have a "point."
Wikipedia would like to be a reputable, authoritative source of
information, and it tries.
But articles like this crop up with ridiculous claims. (I mean, does
anyone really think that women in Somalia, Mali, Chad, or places like
that get maternity leave? If so, then some people are woefully
ignorant of what a poverty-stricken _nation_ really is.) Then people
quote it as if the article is factual. When there are so many glaring
faults, it detracts from whatever polemic the authors intended.
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Posted by Chuck Rhode on June 20, 2008, 11:59 pm
On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 00:14:16 -0700, Turby wrote:
> I mean, does anyone really think that women in Somalia, Mali, Chad,
> or places like that get maternity leave?
No. Does anyone believe that if *paid* maternity leave were the law
in the US then everyone would get it?
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Posted by sleazy on June 17, 2008, 6:26 pm
> On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 13:36:08 -0500, Jerry wrote:
>
>> Europe is the cradle of evil and social injustice.
>
> I have the TV on all morning, and I have to listen to the women talk
> over each other. Today I learned that the US is the only country in
> the world that doesn't mandate *paid* maternity leave of employers.
Turn the TV off and go put gas in your bike. In LaCrosse. Then do it
again in Sheboygan. Today. Repeat as required to maintain sanity. ;')
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>>On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 14:22:26 -0700, Turby wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 14:48:33 -0500, Chuck Rhode
>>
>>>>I have the TV on all morning, and I have to listen to the women talk
>>>>over each other. Today I learned that the US is the only country in
>>>>the world that doesn't mandate *paid* maternity leave of employers.
>>
>>> Somehow I don't think that's true in Chad.
>>
>>Somebody in Chad pays new mothers 50% of their salary for 14 weeks.