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Posted by P. Roehling on April 25, 2008, 2:30 am
> Turns out I didn't hurt the clutch, but I
> broke the transmission real good:
http://s277.photobucket.com/albums/kk54/phoenix76rb/?action=view¤t=BrokenGears1Large.jpg
What are you complaining about?
There's only five bad teeth, and all the others look perfectly fine!
Posted by tomorrow@erols.com on April 28, 2008, 8:13 am
> tomor...@erols.com wrote:
> >>> Heading down to VIR tomorrow for a pair of track days Monday and
> >>> Tuesday; prepping for the Moto-ST round down there April 27. Won't
> >>> be able to practice the full course, but will refamiliarize myself
> >>> with the North course, with the added advantage of being tutored my
> >>> sponsor (and 13-time Mid-Atlantic regional champion) Donnie Unger.
> >>> Hopefully I'll be more competitive 4/27 than I was down in Daytona.
> >>> The A bike has a new dry clutch conversion and a much larger oil
> >>> cooler; the B bike has a new Yoyodyne front fairing stay, and we
> >>> might get the Nicholson frame stiffeners and lightweight flywheel
> >>> installed at the track.
> >> It was cool and heavily overcast both days, high 40's in the morning
> >> and mid to upper 50's each afternoon.
> >> On Monday, we battled the same demons with the A bike that we
> >> encountered at Daytona, namely it would not take full throttle
> >> andwould nor pull (at any throttle opening) over 7,000 rpm. At
> >> Daytona, we finally surrendered and installed a complete stock 800SS
> >> wiring harness, instruments, ignition, and ECU from a temporary donor
> >> bike. That was not an option at VIR. Fortunately, the builder of our
> >> race wiring harness was there, and after confirming that the 900SS ECU
> >> on our bike was good, and the coils were good, and the fuel injectors
> >> were good, he took a race harness off of one of his Ducatis and
> >> installed it on ours, and that solved the problem. Oh, the bike still
> >> needs a custom fuel/ignition map,. but at least it ran well from 6,500
> >> to the rev limiter at 9,200 rpm.
> >> Meanwhile, I took the B bike out, and it ran fine all the way to turn
> >> one on lap one, at which point it crapped out on the rear cylinder.
> >> Since I had remounted the rear cylinder's coil after Daytona
> >> (installed a Yoyodyne race fairing stay that eliminated the oem
> >> mouting point for that coil) that was the immediate suspect. Except,
> >> testing proved that neither the coil nor the custom mount were to
> >> blame. After a lot of testing and probing, we discovered that the
> >> Power Commander III was defective, and when we removed it, the bike
> >> ran fine.
> >> I got in a total of 11 laps over four separate sessions on Monday.
> >> The day was a total loss from a rider's perspective, but at least we
> >> finally pinpointed the location of the running problems with the A
> >> bike. Our wiring harness builder took the harness home with him to
> >> debug the thing, leaving us with his wiring harness for now. We still
> >> need to dynotune both bikes and get custom maps built for them.
> >> Tuesday was much better. I went out in the second round of practice,
> >> riding the B bike, following Donnie Unger, our sponsor and a 14-time
> >> regional CCS champion, who rode the A bike. He started out smooth and
> >> slow, and then just gradually went faster and faster and faster. he
> >> made sure I was keeping pace, and we got the bikes and tires and our
> >> heads up to speed. In the third round (they were running 20 minute
> >> sessions; novices, intermediate, and experts/racers) of expert/racer
> >> practice, we switched bikes and once again I followed Donnie around.
> >> This time he wicked it up a bit, and we ended the session running
> >> about 4-5 seconds off a what would be - by our estimates - a mid-pack
> >> Moto-ST Sport Twin pace.
> >> Unfortunately, on the final lap of that round, I missed a shift coming
> >> onto the main straight, and in a brain fart moment, instead of
> >> upshifting again, I downshifted, and when I let out the clutch, I
> >> broke something in the clutch mechanism. The A bike was done for the
> >> day, and is currently back at Duc Pond Motosports undergoing tear down
> >> and inspection.
> >> After lunch, I went back out on the B bike, ran two sets of back-to-
> >> back sessions with the intermediate riders and the expert/racer
> >> groups, and confirmed that I'll be able to do my full stint on the
> >> bike later this month. 40 minutes on the bike, 20 minutes off, and
> >> then another 40 minutes on the bike, and I wasn't tired at all. I
> >> also shaved another two seconds off my morning lap times.
> >> So, a frustrating but valuable testing experience. Hopefully we can
> >> get the A bike's clutch repaired and the B bike's PCIII replaced in
> >> short order, then dynotune both bikes before the 4/27 round at VIR.
> > Bah. Humbug. Donnie got the A bike's engine rebuilt yesterday and
> > installed in the bike today, but the supposedly repaired race wiring
> > harness is giving serious fits and ITS builder has gone incommunicado
> > on us. We leave for VIR tonight or tomorrow morning.
> > Turns out I didn't hurt the clutch, but I broke the transmission real
> > good:
> >http://s277.photobucket.com/albums/kk54/phoenix76rb/?action=view&curr ...
> At least you have an older Harley. I read the newer ones sound the way
> that one looks.
WTF?
Posted by saddlebag on April 28, 2008, 6:52 pm tomorrow@erols.com wrote:
>> tomor...@erols.com wrote:
>>>>> Heading down to VIR tomorrow for a pair of track days Monday and
>>>>> Tuesday; prepping for the Moto-ST round down there April 27. Won't
>>>>> be able to practice the full course, but will refamiliarize myself
>>>>> with the North course, with the added advantage of being tutored my
>>>>> sponsor (and 13-time Mid-Atlantic regional champion) Donnie Unger.
>>>>> Hopefully I'll be more competitive 4/27 than I was down in Daytona.
>>>>> The A bike has a new dry clutch conversion and a much larger oil
>>>>> cooler; the B bike has a new Yoyodyne front fairing stay, and we
>>>>> might get the Nicholson frame stiffeners and lightweight flywheel
>>>>> installed at the track.
>>>> It was cool and heavily overcast both days, high 40's in the morning
>>>> and mid to upper 50's each afternoon.
>>>> On Monday, we battled the same demons with the A bike that we
>>>> encountered at Daytona, namely it would not take full throttle
>>>> andwould nor pull (at any throttle opening) over 7,000 rpm. At
>>>> Daytona, we finally surrendered and installed a complete stock 800SS
>>>> wiring harness, instruments, ignition, and ECU from a temporary donor
>>>> bike. That was not an option at VIR. Fortunately, the builder of our
>>>> race wiring harness was there, and after confirming that the 900SS ECU
>>>> on our bike was good, and the coils were good, and the fuel injectors
>>>> were good, he took a race harness off of one of his Ducatis and
>>>> installed it on ours, and that solved the problem. Oh, the bike still
>>>> needs a custom fuel/ignition map,. but at least it ran well from 6,500
>>>> to the rev limiter at 9,200 rpm.
>>>> Meanwhile, I took the B bike out, and it ran fine all the way to turn
>>>> one on lap one, at which point it crapped out on the rear cylinder.
>>>> Since I had remounted the rear cylinder's coil after Daytona
>>>> (installed a Yoyodyne race fairing stay that eliminated the oem
>>>> mouting point for that coil) that was the immediate suspect. Except,
>>>> testing proved that neither the coil nor the custom mount were to
>>>> blame. After a lot of testing and probing, we discovered that the
>>>> Power Commander III was defective, and when we removed it, the bike
>>>> ran fine.
>>>> I got in a total of 11 laps over four separate sessions on Monday.
>>>> The day was a total loss from a rider's perspective, but at least we
>>>> finally pinpointed the location of the running problems with the A
>>>> bike. Our wiring harness builder took the harness home with him to
>>>> debug the thing, leaving us with his wiring harness for now. We still
>>>> need to dynotune both bikes and get custom maps built for them.
>>>> Tuesday was much better. I went out in the second round of practice,
>>>> riding the B bike, following Donnie Unger, our sponsor and a 14-time
>>>> regional CCS champion, who rode the A bike. He started out smooth and
>>>> slow, and then just gradually went faster and faster and faster. he
>>>> made sure I was keeping pace, and we got the bikes and tires and our
>>>> heads up to speed. In the third round (they were running 20 minute
>>>> sessions; novices, intermediate, and experts/racers) of expert/racer
>>>> practice, we switched bikes and once again I followed Donnie around.
>>>> This time he wicked it up a bit, and we ended the session running
>>>> about 4-5 seconds off a what would be - by our estimates - a mid-pack
>>>> Moto-ST Sport Twin pace.
>>>> Unfortunately, on the final lap of that round, I missed a shift coming
>>>> onto the main straight, and in a brain fart moment, instead of
>>>> upshifting again, I downshifted, and when I let out the clutch, I
>>>> broke something in the clutch mechanism. The A bike was done for the
>>>> day, and is currently back at Duc Pond Motosports undergoing tear down
>>>> and inspection.
>>>> After lunch, I went back out on the B bike, ran two sets of back-to-
>>>> back sessions with the intermediate riders and the expert/racer
>>>> groups, and confirmed that I'll be able to do my full stint on the
>>>> bike later this month. 40 minutes on the bike, 20 minutes off, and
>>>> then another 40 minutes on the bike, and I wasn't tired at all. I
>>>> also shaved another two seconds off my morning lap times.
>>>> So, a frustrating but valuable testing experience. Hopefully we can
>>>> get the A bike's clutch repaired and the B bike's PCIII replaced in
>>>> short order, then dynotune both bikes before the 4/27 round at VIR.
>>> Bah. Humbug. Donnie got the A bike's engine rebuilt yesterday and
>>> installed in the bike today, but the supposedly repaired race wiring
>>> harness is giving serious fits and ITS builder has gone incommunicado
>>> on us. We leave for VIR tonight or tomorrow morning.
>>> Turns out I didn't hurt the clutch, but I broke the transmission real
>>> good:
>>> http://s277.photobucket.com/albums/kk54/phoenix76rb/?action=view&curr ...
>> At least you have an older Harley. I read the newer ones sound the way
>> that one looks.
>
> WTF?
http://www.cyclespot.com/forums/showthread.php?p 7370
Posted by tomorrow@erols.com on April 28, 2008, 7:00 pm
> tomor...@erols.com wrote:
> >> tomor...@erols.com wrote:
> >>>>> Heading down to VIR tomorrow for a pair of track days Monday and
> >>>>> Tuesday; prepping for the Moto-ST round down there April 27. Won't
> >>>>> be able to practice the full course, but will refamiliarize myself
> >>>>> with the North course, with the added advantage of being tutored my
> >>>>> sponsor (and 13-time Mid-Atlantic regional champion) Donnie Unger.
> >>>>> Hopefully I'll be more competitive 4/27 than I was down in Daytona.
> >>>>> The A bike has a new dry clutch conversion and a much larger oil
> >>>>> cooler; the B bike has a new Yoyodyne front fairing stay, and we
> >>>>> might get the Nicholson frame stiffeners and lightweight flywheel
> >>>>> installed at the track.
> >>>> It was cool and heavily overcast both days, high 40's in the morning
> >>>> and mid to upper 50's each afternoon.
> >>>> On Monday, we battled the same demons with the A bike that we
> >>>> encountered at Daytona, namely it would not take full throttle
> >>>> andwould nor pull (at any throttle opening) over 7,000 rpm. At
> >>>> Daytona, we finally surrendered and installed a complete stock 800SS
> >>>> wiring harness, instruments, ignition, and ECU from a temporary donor
> >>>> bike. That was not an option at VIR. Fortunately, the builder of our
> >>>> race wiring harness was there, and after confirming that the 900SS ECU
> >>>> on our bike was good, and the coils were good, and the fuel injectors
> >>>> were good, he took a race harness off of one of his Ducatis and
> >>>> installed it on ours, and that solved the problem. Oh, the bike still
> >>>> needs a custom fuel/ignition map,. but at least it ran well from 6,500
> >>>> to the rev limiter at 9,200 rpm.
> >>>> Meanwhile, I took the B bike out, and it ran fine all the way to turn
> >>>> one on lap one, at which point it crapped out on the rear cylinder.
> >>>> Since I had remounted the rear cylinder's coil after Daytona
> >>>> (installed a Yoyodyne race fairing stay that eliminated the oem
> >>>> mouting point for that coil) that was the immediate suspect. Except,
> >>>> testing proved that neither the coil nor the custom mount were to
> >>>> blame. After a lot of testing and probing, we discovered that the
> >>>> Power Commander III was defective, and when we removed it, the bike
> >>>> ran fine.
> >>>> I got in a total of 11 laps over four separate sessions on Monday.
> >>>> The day was a total loss from a rider's perspective, but at least we
> >>>> finally pinpointed the location of the running problems with the A
> >>>> bike. Our wiring harness builder took the harness home with him to
> >>>> debug the thing, leaving us with his wiring harness for now. We still
> >>>> need to dynotune both bikes and get custom maps built for them.
> >>>> Tuesday was much better. I went out in the second round of practice,
> >>>> riding the B bike, following Donnie Unger, our sponsor and a 14-time
> >>>> regional CCS champion, who rode the A bike. He started out smooth and
> >>>> slow, and then just gradually went faster and faster and faster. he
> >>>> made sure I was keeping pace, and we got the bikes and tires and our
> >>>> heads up to speed. In the third round (they were running 20 minute
> >>>> sessions; novices, intermediate, and experts/racers) of expert/racer
> >>>> practice, we switched bikes and once again I followed Donnie around.
> >>>> This time he wicked it up a bit, and we ended the session running
> >>>> about 4-5 seconds off a what would be - by our estimates - a mid-pack
> >>>> Moto-ST Sport Twin pace.
> >>>> Unfortunately, on the final lap of that round, I missed a shift coming
> >>>> onto the main straight, and in a brain fart moment, instead of
> >>>> upshifting again, I downshifted, and when I let out the clutch, I
> >>>> broke something in the clutch mechanism. The A bike was done for the
> >>>> day, and is currently back at Duc Pond Motosports undergoing tear down
> >>>> and inspection.
> >>>> After lunch, I went back out on the B bike, ran two sets of back-to-
> >>>> back sessions with the intermediate riders and the expert/racer
> >>>> groups, and confirmed that I'll be able to do my full stint on the
> >>>> bike later this month. 40 minutes on the bike, 20 minutes off, and
> >>>> then another 40 minutes on the bike, and I wasn't tired at all. I
> >>>> also shaved another two seconds off my morning lap times.
> >>>> So, a frustrating but valuable testing experience. Hopefully we can
> >>>> get the A bike's clutch repaired and the B bike's PCIII replaced in
> >>>> short order, then dynotune both bikes before the 4/27 round at VIR.
> >>> Bah. Humbug. Donnie got the A bike's engine rebuilt yesterday and
> >>> installed in the bike today, but the supposedly repaired race wiring
> >>> harness is giving serious fits and ITS builder has gone incommunicado
> >>> on us. We leave for VIR tonight or tomorrow morning.
> >>> Turns out I didn't hurt the clutch, but I broke the transmission real
> >>> good:
> >>>http://s277.photobucket.com/albums/kk54/phoenix76rb/?action=view&curr ...
> >> At least you have an older Harley. I read the newer ones sound the way
> >> that one looks.
> > WTF?
> http://www.cyclespot.com/forums/showthread.php?p=127370- Hide quoted text -
> - Show quoted text -
WTF???
Posted by Vaughn on April 29, 2008, 8:17 pm On Apr 29, 5:56 pm, Calgary
> And to the best of my knowledge Yamaha did not correct the excessive
> heat issue with the FJR's under warrantee.
> --
> See Ya On The Road
> 2000 Yamaha Venture Millennium
> 2004 HD Road King
Nope, it was in the later iterations. Which isn't a stellar fix-it
plan for current owners, but at least the manufacturer listened -
which is more than most can say for Suzuki....
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