Posted by Larry on June 30, 2007, 1:28 pm
>
> > I'm also curious to hear the OP's "logic." ?I bet he lost not
> because
> > his logic challenged anyone's self-importance, but because it was either
> > contradicted by other evidence or not as "logical" as he'd have us
> > believe.
>
> No, it wasn't so much that my case was illogical, it was that the
> commissioner really didn't want to spend the time on the matter.
So the guy whose job it is to decide these things didn't want to spend
time deciding these things?
> When
> I told him that I was going to take the time to build a logical case,
> he made me wait until he had disposed of all the other cases.
That makes sense, and is most efficient. If you're going to take
awhile, why make everyone else wait?
> What was my case about? A CHP officer saw me riding on the freeway and
> decided that I must be speeding since I was riding a motorcycle in the
> left hand lane. He got onto the freeway as I was getting off and he
> travelled a different distance than I did, so any odometer clocking
> was irrelevant.?The freeway is not straight, and we were on curves of
> two different radii. He was speeding up and I was slowing down as he
> overtook
> me.
So he testified that you were speeding. You argued his testimony
shouldn't be believed. And you lost. Not shocking.
Posted by Bob Mann on June 30, 2007, 3:04 pm
>So he testified that you were speeding. You argued his testimony
>shouldn't be believed. And you lost. Not shocking.
I've done that twice.
Worked once, failed once although the speed was reduced for the fine.
--
Bob Mann
Sex is like air; it's not important unless you
aren't getting any
Posted by Bob Mann on June 30, 2007, 3:10 pm
On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 10:58:17 -0700, "Two Wheels Good, Four Wheels Bad"
>The state cannot afford to tie up a court room and a real judge so
>that the people can get a fair and impartial hearing.
>If you insist on a court trial before a real judge, the system will
>require you to waive your right to a speedy trial and put your case on
>arraignment more than 45 days later.
At which point you request a further postponement for some reason.
Often it will be granted. You can usually get away with it a couple of
times. Lawyers do this all the time.
>When you get to court, the real judge asks you how you plead and
>schedules your case for hearing a month or two after that.
At which point you request a postponement again.
>When you appear for trial, you may have to wait a day or two for a
>court room to become available.
Must be busy where you are.
Here you always get heard on the day you are scheduled. They have a
specific court for traffic offences. Night as well as day.
--
Bob Mann
Sex is like air; it's not important unless you
aren't getting any
Posted by Fred G. Mackey on June 30, 2007, 5:01 pm
Bob Mann wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 10:58:17 -0700, "Two Wheels Good, Four Wheels Bad"
>
>
>>The state cannot afford to tie up a court room and a real judge so
>>that the people can get a fair and impartial hearing.
>>
>>If you insist on a court trial before a real judge, the system will
>>require you to waive your right to a speedy trial and put your case on
>>arraignment more than 45 days later.
>
>
> At which point you request a further postponement for some reason.
> Often it will be granted. You can usually get away with it a couple of
> times. Lawyers do this all the time.
>
>>When you get to court, the real judge asks you how you plead and
>>schedules your case for hearing a month or two after that.
>
>
> At which point you request a postponement again.
>
>>When you appear for trial, you may have to wait a day or two for a
>>court room to become available.
>>
>
> Must be busy where you are.
I once had a court date 14 months after a ticket. And that was without
my asking for any sort of continuance.
> Here you always get heard on the day you are scheduled. They have a
> specific court for traffic offences. Night as well as day.
Posted by Larry on June 30, 2007, 5:12 pm
> Bob Mann wrote:
> > On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 10:58:17 -0700, "Two Wheels Good, Four Wheels Bad"
> >
> >
> >>The state cannot afford to tie up a court room and a real judge so
> >>that the people can get a fair and impartial hearing.
> >>
> >>If you insist on a court trial before a real judge, the system will
> >>require you to waive your right to a speedy trial and put your case on
> >>arraignment more than 45 days later.
> >
> >
> > At which point you request a further postponement for some reason.
> > Often it will be granted. You can usually get away with it a couple of
> > times. Lawyers do this all the time.
> >
> >>When you get to court, the real judge asks you how you plead and
> >>schedules your case for hearing a month or two after that.
> >
> >
> > At which point you request a postponement again.
> >
> >>When you appear for trial, you may have to wait a day or two for a
> >>court room to become available.
> >>
> >
> > Must be busy where you are.
>
> I once had a court date 14 months after a ticket. And that was without
> my asking for any sort of continuance.
There weren't any intermediate court dates? Your case was on one day,
and was then adjourned for 14 months, with nothing happening in between?
I find thta hard to believe. What jurisdiction and court was this in?
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> > I'm also curious to hear the OP's "logic." ?I bet he lost not
> because
> > his logic challenged anyone's self-importance, but because it was either
> > contradicted by other evidence or not as "logical" as he'd have us
> > believe.
>
> No, it wasn't so much that my case was illogical, it was that the
> commissioner really didn't want to spend the time on the matter.