Posted by The Older Gentleman on April 16, 2010, 1:58 pm
http://www.neil_murray.fastmail.fm/600Shadow.jpg
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BMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Honda CB400F Triumph Street Triple
Suzuki TS250ER GN250 Damn, back to six bikes!
Try Googling before asking a damn silly question.
chateau dot murray at idnet dot com
Posted by Datesfat Chicks on April 17, 2010, 4:24 pm
> http://www.neil_murray.fastmail.fm/600Shadow.jpg
Thanks for the help. As best I can tell, the Shadow in the picture is a
different year.
Here are my notes:
http://www.dtashley.com/howtos/2010/04/rear_brake_pedal_2006_vt600c/
I received three very helpful replies, including one with photos.
The photos from Gym J. appear to be pound-for-pound identical to mine,
except (for reasons I can't guess at) his washer seems to be a different
color.
Thanks for all, Datesfat
Posted by The Older Gentleman on April 17, 2010, 4:34 pm
> The photos from Gym J. appear to be pound-for-pound identical to mine,
> except (for reasons I can't guess at) his washer seems to be a different
> color.
Ah, yeah, I can understand that. About three or four years ago, Honda
switched to a titanium alloy (can't be more specific than that) washer
on some crucial pivoting parts, because (a) there was less friction but
mainly (b) the things didn't corrode.
Honda, and other Jap manufacturers, have had problems with rear brake
pedals corroding in place, usually when they were inserted through alloy
plates. Oddly, my old Kawasaki GT750 (1989 vintage) had the same problem
and every so often I used to have to strip down the rear brake pedal
assembly, clean, re-grease and re-assemble.
There was some sort of product liability hassle - you really don't want
seizing rear brakes on any vehicle - and they switched to a titanium
alloy washer on all such applications. I don't think the Shadow uses
alloy plates, so my guess is that they simply installed titanium washers
on a "might as well" basis.
That said, it's probably a good idea to bring your bike up to the latest
spec by fitting one, because at least then you'll know one potentil
danger has been eliminated.
--
BMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Honda CB400F Triumph Street Triple
Suzuki TS250ER GN250 Damn, back to six bikes!
Try Googling before asking a damn silly question.
chateau dot murray at idnet dot com
Posted by Datesfat Chicks on April 17, 2010, 5:56 pm
>> The photos from Gym J. appear to be pound-for-pound identical to mine,
>> except (for reasons I can't guess at) his washer seems to be a different
>> color.
> Ah, yeah, I can understand that. About three or four years ago, Honda
> switched to a titanium alloy (can't be more specific than that) washer
> on some crucial pivoting parts, because (a) there was less friction but
> mainly (b) the things didn't corrode.
> Honda, and other Jap manufacturers, have had problems with rear brake
> pedals corroding in place, usually when they were inserted through alloy
> plates. Oddly, my old Kawasaki GT750 (1989 vintage) had the same problem
> and every so often I used to have to strip down the rear brake pedal
> assembly, clean, re-grease and re-assemble.
> There was some sort of product liability hassle - you really don't want
> seizing rear brakes on any vehicle - and they switched to a titanium
> alloy washer on all such applications. I don't think the Shadow uses
> alloy plates, so my guess is that they simply installed titanium washers
> on a "might as well" basis.
> That said, it's probably a good idea to bring your bike up to the latest
> spec by fitting one, because at least then you'll know one potentil
> danger has been eliminated.
> --
> BMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Honda CB400F Triumph Street Triple
> Suzuki TS250ER GN250 Damn, back to six bikes!
> Try Googling before asking a damn silly question.
> chateau dot murray at idnet dot com
Posted by Datesfat Chicks on April 17, 2010, 6:02 pm
>> The photos from Gym J. appear to be pound-for-pound identical to mine,
>> except (for reasons I can't guess at) his washer seems to be a different
>> color.
> Ah, yeah, I can understand that. About three or four years ago, Honda
> switched to a titanium alloy (can't be more specific than that) washer
> on some crucial pivoting parts, because (a) there was less friction but
> mainly (b) the things didn't corrode.
> Honda, and other Jap manufacturers, have had problems with rear brake
> pedals corroding in place, usually when they were inserted through alloy
> plates. Oddly, my old Kawasaki GT750 (1989 vintage) had the same problem
> and every so often I used to have to strip down the rear brake pedal
> assembly, clean, re-grease and re-assemble.
> There was some sort of product liability hassle - you really don't want
> seizing rear brakes on any vehicle - and they switched to a titanium
> alloy washer on all such applications. I don't think the Shadow uses
> alloy plates, so my guess is that they simply installed titanium washers
> on a "might as well" basis.
> That said, it's probably a good idea to bring your bike up to the latest
> spec by fitting one, because at least then you'll know one potentil
> danger has been eliminated.
Thanks for all the info. There are a few mysteries, however ...
a)All of the washers on my motorcycle on the pedal brackets where the four
bolts go through are the same part number (my question is just where one of
them went).
b)When I disassembled the pedal bracket, all of the four washers looked
identical.
c)I didn't receive a recall notice from Honda.
d)I've seen no signs of corrosion or binding ...
...
So, I'd want to look for a less exotic explanation for the different color
... just don't know what that explanation would be ...
???
Thanks, Datesfat
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