So. CA Park Police installing rolling-stop cameras - Page 3

 Stephen! wrote:


Cops will misuse the definition of "Stop" in the vehicle code to mean
something other than what it was intended to mean, i.e., stopping where there
is a sign that prohibits stopping or standing.

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d01/vc587.htm

Stop or Stopping
587.  "Stop or stopping" *when prohibited* shall mean any cessation of
movement of a vehicle, whether occupied or not, except when necessary to
avoid conflict with other traffic or in compliance with the direction of a
police officer or official traffic control device or signal.

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d11/vc22450.htm

Stop Requirements
22450.  (a) The driver of any vehicle approaching a stop sign at the entrance
to, or within, an intersection, or railroad grade crossing shall stop at a
limit line, if marked, otherwise before entering the crosswalk on the near
side of the intersection.

If there is no limit line or crosswalk, the driver shall stop at the entrance
to the intersecting roadway or railroad grade crossing.

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 B. Peg wrote:


Camera? They need a freaking traffic signal there to control the Vals.

It's all the fault of commuters from the San Fernando Valley shortcutting to
Beverly Hills instead of using the freeway system.

The mention of Willacre Park confused me. If I wanted to visit that park I
would park in the lot on Laurel Canyon and walk up the hill to the Tree
People park.

Or I could park at the Tree People park on Coldwater and hike down the hill
to the Willacre entrance.

Some 1930's movie star had a rock house on the hill there and you can still
see the ruins. You can look down into Franklin Canyon from Willacre Park.

Coldwater and Mulholland Drive/Franklin Canyon Drive is a tricky intersection.
If you are headed west on Mulholland, you have to stop at Coldwater and ride
about half a mile northwest to the stop sign at the entrance to Tree People
park and wait for a gap in the endless stream of cars to make a left.

The park is right at the crest of the hills.

Cars coming up Coldwater Canyon from the San Fernando Valley cannot be seen
until the last second, and drivers wanting to turn left onto Mulholland Drive
may have make a dangerous left turn.

Cars (or motorcycles) headed eastward come to a stop sign and often have to
accelerate rapidly to make themselves a place in the stream of Coldwater
Canyon traffic.

If you want to proceed onto Mulholland Drive and head towards Hollywood, you
have to wait for a left turn signal. Again, cars coming up the hill from
Beverly Hills cannot be seen until the last second, but at least there is a
traffic light there.

Franklin Canyon Drive is a little known road to the right at Tree People park.
It goes to Franklin Canyon Reservoir and some little parks in a canyon. There
are duck ponds and picnic tables and hiking trails, a replica Tongva Indian
ap (hut), and a nature museum.

Nobody except locals know about that stuff, so don't tell anyone.

If you take a right turn instead of going down to the picnic area, you wind
up in Beverly Hills.

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