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Posted by Turby on April 9, 2009, 1:42 pm
 
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On Thu, 09 Apr 2009 10:37:49 -0500, Chuck Rhode


The Feds can just print more money. Lesser government entities have to
balance budgets somehow. If people make less money and land is worth
less, taxes won't generate enough to pay for programs constituents
demand, ergo, taxes will go up.


My home town does not have a separate charge for trash collection. It
is included in the general fund. Some people think the city should
have a separate fee for it, saying we get the service for free. As if
the trucks and driver's pay were donated by Bill Gates. Perhaps every
line item in the budget should be a separate fee. Whatever works to
generate more revenue.


I'm afraid to ask what this is all about. _Must_ discharge ballast
water? What's the alternative?

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Posted by .p.jm on April 9, 2009, 2:20 pm
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    And then in a few years when the economy recovers, wages and
property values go up - the government will KEEP the higher tax rates,
and find ways to piss away the 'windfall' on social engineering
programs.


    Leave it sit in the tanks ?  But that's hard to tax ....


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Posted by Chuck Rhode on April 9, 2009, 9:22 pm
 On Thu, 09 Apr 2009 10:42:27 -0700, Turby wrote:


The summary is obviously garbled.  Perhaps *this* is closer to the
intent of the legislation:


Here're snippets of a news article from a couple of months ago:

"Under the new plan, oceangoing vessels would have to pay $1,200 to
apply for a 5-year permit allowing them to discharge ballast water at
Wisconsin's Lake Michigan and Lake Superior ports. They'd also have to
pay an additional $345 each year they hold the permit.

"Gov. Jim Doyle's budget proposal, released this week, estimates the
fees would generate about $460,000 by 2011 and cover three positions
to run the program.

"The ships would have to meet limits on the number of living organisms
allowed in discharged ballast water."

"Ships that never leave the Great Lakes wouldn't face discharge
standards. They would instead have to use strategies to control
invasives, such as disinfectants.

"The requirements reflect concern in the Great Lakes-only shipping
industry over paying millions of dollars for ballast water treatment
equipment.

"The 'lakers,' as they call themselves, say they may move organisms
around but their spread is inevitable once they reach the Great
Lakes. States need to stop the oceangoing ships, or 'salties,' from
bringing the invasives in, they contend."

o Richmond, Todd. "Wis. Proposes Tough New Great Lakes Ballast Rules."
_Chicago Tribune_. 20 Feb. 2009. 9 Apr. 2009
<http://archives.chicagotribune.com/2009/feb/20/science/chi-ap-wi-ballast-
invasives>.

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Posted by Henry on April 9, 2009, 2:07 pm
 Chuck Rhode wrote:

  Illegal, immoral wars, tax cuts for billionaire, and handouts
to fraudulent Wall St investment firms don't come without a
price. Now get back to work so you can pay your share. ;-)


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Posted by Rkleinsch1216128 on April 9, 2009, 2:13 pm
 

Not a bad thought at all. As a former resident of
Buffalo, piracy looks like a great way to replace
lost jobs throughout the entire great lakes region.

Wonder if there's money for boat purchases and
job retraining available in the economic stimulus
package. There's already ample precedent for
subsidized piracy in the Wall Street bailouts.




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