Posted by Bobbie on May 8, 2006, 10:35 pm
Do they actually have proof readers at Clymer that verify anything in
their books?
I can't believe how many omissions and errors there are in the wiring
diagram they have for my 85 XV1000.
Oh errors, let me count thy ways.
1) front brake light switch is connected directly to the highbeam and
not the brake lights.
2) Starter switch and kickstand relay ground wire (black) are connected to
each other but they aren't in turn connected to ground.
3) starter switch Press and Free positions are backwards.
4) Clutch lever interlock relay is shown as being tied into the turn
signal circuit.
5) Wire colour codes are not consistent. IEEE standards state first colour
is to be the main colour and the second colour is to be the stripe. Clymer
interchanges these at will.
6) When the blue/yellow wire from the clutch lever is tapped to run to the
diode pack the tap wire, solid yellow, isn't reflected. In fact none of
these taps are represented properly.
7) the way they lay out the connectors in their drawings is absolutely
baffling.
Just had to vent...
You may now return to your regularly scheduled events.
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Posted by Rob Kleinschmidt on May 9, 2006, 4:01 pm
Bobbie (remove-this) wrote:
> Do they actually have proof readers at Clymer that verify anything in
> their books?
> I can't believe how many omissions and errors there are in the wiring
> diagram they have for my 85 XV1000.
> Oh errors, let me count thy ways.
> 1) front brake light switch is connected directly to the highbeam and
> not the brake lights.
> 2) Starter switch and kickstand relay ground wire (black) are connected to
> each other but they aren't in turn connected to ground.
> 3) starter switch Press and Free positions are backwards.
> 4) Clutch lever interlock relay is shown as being tied into the turn
> signal circuit.
> 5) Wire colour codes are not consistent. IEEE standards state first colour
> is to be the main colour and the second colour is to be the stripe. Clymer
> interchanges these at will.
> 6) When the blue/yellow wire from the clutch lever is tapped to run to the
> diode pack the tap wire, solid yellow, isn't reflected. In fact none of
> these taps are represented properly.
> 7) the way they lay out the connectors in their drawings is absolutely
> baffling.
I've heard Clymer referred to as a Child's Garden of Errors.
I usually compare Haynes and Clymer before starting any
job and hope they're not both wrong in the same ways.
Haynes has some pretty decent color schematics and
the artwork in general is better. On the downside, their
manual is skimpy and they pad it with lots of boilerplate,
including a chain maintenance section in the manual for
a shafty.
Posted by Andrew on May 9, 2006, 5:46 pm
Bobbie wrote:
> Do they actually have proof readers at Clymer that verify anything in
> their books?
> I can't believe how many omissions and errors there are in the wiring
> diagram they have for my 85 XV1000.
>
> Oh errors, let me count thy ways.
>
> 1) front brake light switch is connected directly to the highbeam and
> not the brake lights.
> 2) Starter switch and kickstand relay ground wire (black) are connected to
> each other but they aren't in turn connected to ground.
> 3) starter switch Press and Free positions are backwards.
> 4) Clutch lever interlock relay is shown as being tied into the turn
> signal circuit.
> 5) Wire colour codes are not consistent. IEEE standards state first colour
> is to be the main colour and the second colour is to be the stripe. Clymer
> interchanges these at will.
> 6) When the blue/yellow wire from the clutch lever is tapped to run to the
> diode pack the tap wire, solid yellow, isn't reflected. In fact none of
> these taps are represented properly.
> 7) the way they lay out the connectors in their drawings is absolutely
> baffling.
>
>
>
> Just had to vent...
> You may now return to your regularly scheduled events.
>
>
>
I bet you can't wait for 4:20, just a couple hours to go Bobbie!
--
Andrew
00 Daytona
00 Speed Triple
71 Kawi H1
05 Infant
Posted by Stupendous Man on May 9, 2006, 9:00 pm
The early goldwing manuals showed a picture of the jet locations of the
carbs, and got the air correction jets reversed. "Clymer's disease" got a
lot of people.
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Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty
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> their books?
> I can't believe how many omissions and errors there are in the wiring
> diagram they have for my 85 XV1000.
> Oh errors, let me count thy ways.
> 1) front brake light switch is connected directly to the highbeam and
> not the brake lights.
> 2) Starter switch and kickstand relay ground wire (black) are connected to
> each other but they aren't in turn connected to ground.
> 3) starter switch Press and Free positions are backwards.
> 4) Clutch lever interlock relay is shown as being tied into the turn
> signal circuit.
> 5) Wire colour codes are not consistent. IEEE standards state first colour
> is to be the main colour and the second colour is to be the stripe. Clymer
> interchanges these at will.
> 6) When the blue/yellow wire from the clutch lever is tapped to run to the
> diode pack the tap wire, solid yellow, isn't reflected. In fact none of
> these taps are represented properly.
> 7) the way they lay out the connectors in their drawings is absolutely
> baffling.