Posted by Bruce Richmond on August 25, 2010, 11:34 pm
On Aug 25, 2:19 am, totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk (The Older
Gentleman) wrote:
> <Snip superb stuff>
> Marvellous.
> Mind you, this:
> >But note that the
> > driver in the vid once entered on the right, passing three other rigs
> > on the way in, proving once again that the wrong line ridden well can
> > be faster than the correct line ridden poorly.
Not sure what you are getting at here. The above is a basic truth
that I learned racing on two wheels but applies to all racing. If a
slower rider is occupying the best line, and you can go faster then
him on a less favorable line. You can pass him by riding the less
favorable line better than he is riding the best line. I always laugh
when annoucers go on about a track being a one line track and how
difficult it is to pass. Almost every turn, or set of turns, has
multiple lines, many of which are nearly as fast as the fastest. If
you come up on a slow rider any one of those alternate lines will get
you past him. The difficulty comes when you are almost perfectly
matched. In that case giving up even a small fraction of a second to
take the alternate line sacrifices the small advantage you might have
had in that turn. Any decent rider will know that you had to
compromise something to make the pass and that they can probably pass
you back while you are trying to collect everything, but it must be
done immediately.
> and this:
> >Peter borrowed the
> > friend's son, who had never heard of sidecars before, and came to the
> > track. He taught the kid what he need to do and gave him a ride to
> > remember.
> confirms my suspicion that sidecar racers are all decerebrate maniacs.
I used the term "kid" losely. He was probably 25 and was in good
shape. Still his mother's kid and a kid to us old farts.
As far as I know Peter only takes his own kid out racing. Last month
he took his 14 year old daughter out for her first time win. She was
wearing her mom's leathers. Mom will continue to passenger on the
modern rigs while daughter takes over on the vintage.
There are some sick bastids out there though that will stop at nothing
to have the lightest passenger.
http://resthome.50megs.com/Scooter03.jpg
Posted by The Older Gentleman on August 26, 2010, 2:17 am
> > >But note that the
> > > driver in the vid once entered on the right, passing three other rigs
> > > on the way in, proving once again that the wrong line ridden well can
> > > be faster than the correct line ridden poorly.
>
> Not sure what you are getting at here. The above is a basic truth
> that I learned racing on two wheels but applies to all racing. If a
> slower rider is occupying the best line, and you can go faster then
> him on a less favorable line.
Oh yes. It's just that doing it on a sidecar increases the risk factor
if it doesn't work, I'd have thought.
> > and this:
> >
> > >Peter borrowed the
> > > friend's son, who had never heard of sidecars before, and came to the
> > > track. He taught the kid what he need to do and gave him a ride to
> > > remember.
> >
> > confirms my suspicion that sidecar racers are all decerebrate maniacs.
>
> I used the term "kid" losely. He was probably 25 and was in good
> shape. Still his mother's kid and a kid to us old farts.
>
> As far as I know Peter only takes his own kid out racing. Last month
> he took his 14 year old daughter out for her first time win. She was
> wearing her mom's leathers. Mom will continue to passenger on the
> modern rigs while daughter takes over on the vintage.
I think this is brilliant. Barking mad, but brilliant.
>
> There are some sick bastids out there though that will stop at nothing
> to have the lightest passenger.
>
> http://resthome.50megs.com/Scooter03.jpg
So's this.
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Posted by Bruce Richmond on August 27, 2010, 1:09 am
On Aug 26, 2:17 am, totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk (The Older
Gentleman) wrote:
> > > >But note that the
> > > > driver in the vid once entered on the right, passing three other rigs
> > > > on the way in, proving once again that the wrong line ridden well can
> > > > be faster than the correct line ridden poorly.
> > Not sure what you are getting at here. The above is a basic truth
> > that I learned racing on two wheels but applies to all racing. If a
> > slower rider is occupying the best line, and you can go faster then
> > him on a less favorable line.
> Oh yes. It's just that doing it on a sidecar increases the risk factor
> if it doesn't work, I'd have thought.
> > > and this:
> > > >Peter borrowed the
> > > > friend's son, who had never heard of sidecars before, and came to the
> > > > track. He taught the kid what he need to do and gave him a ride to
> > > > remember.
> > > confirms my suspicion that sidecar racers are all decerebrate maniacs.
> > I used the term "kid" losely. He was probably 25 and was in good
> > shape. Still his mother's kid and a kid to us old farts.
> > As far as I know Peter only takes his own kid out racing. Last month
> > he took his 14 year old daughter out for her first time win. She was
> > wearing her mom's leathers. Mom will continue to passenger on the
> > modern rigs while daughter takes over on the vintage.
> I think this is brilliant. Barking mad, but brilliant.
> > There are some sick bastids out there though that will stop at nothing
> > to have the lightest passenger.
> >http://resthome.50megs.com/Scooter03.jpg
> So's this.
But what you really want to see are some nut cases. Here is a father/
daughter team spending some quality time together on their BSA.
http://resthome.50megs.com/heat08_600x398.jpg
We had a father/son team race together for a few years. When the son
was old enough to drive they swapped positions each race. Their last
race before retiring they swapped positions at the half way flags
while leading the race and never let off the gas.
http://resthome.50megs.com/swap.jpg
And then there is another kind of crazy.
http://i436.photobucket.com/albums/qq86/bruce8897/streak.jpg
Posted by The Older Gentleman on August 27, 2010, 3:24 am
> But what you really want to see are some nut cases. Here is a father/
> daughter team spending some quality time together on their BSA.
>
> http://resthome.50megs.com/heat08_600x398.jpg
Excellent. Keep insanity in the family.
--
BMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Honda CB400F Triumph Street Triple
Kawasaki GT550 Suzuki TS250ERx2 GN250 Damn, back to eight bikes!
Try Googling before asking a damn silly question.
chateau dot murray at idnet dot com
Posted by Rob Kleinschmidt on August 27, 2010, 10:48 am
On Aug 26, 11:24 pm, totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk (The Older
Gentleman) wrote:
> > But what you really want to see are some nut cases. Here is a father/
> > daughter team spending some quality time together on their BSA.
> >http://resthome.50megs.com/heat08_600x398.jpg
> Excellent. Keep insanity in the family.
Having your fellow motorcyclists think of you as an
insane thrill seeker is quite an accomplishment.
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> Marvellous.
> Mind you, this:
> >But note that the
> > driver in the vid once entered on the right, passing three other rigs
> > on the way in, proving once again that the wrong line ridden well can
> > be faster than the correct line ridden poorly.