Posted by Datesfat Chicks on October 29, 2009, 1:56 pm
> For some reason gloves only last me a year (around 10,000 miles). I
> always wear a hole in the left glove, in the palm roughly between my
> thumb and index finger. I notice the left grip is worn down too. I
> buy good name brand gloves and don't move my hands around much
> unless I'm in the twisties. Maybe it's the way I pivot my hand to
> grab the clutch. Anybody else have this problem?
Might I inquire what type of gloves you have?
I have a full-length set of gloves with kevlar and so on, and they've
survived a lot of motorcycling (15K miles) plus a lot of handling combative
cats.
It isn't easy for me to imagine wearing out gloves regularly.
What material?
How thick?
Datesfat.
Posted by tomorrow@erols.com on October 29, 2009, 2:38 pm
wrote:
> > For some reason gloves only last me a year (around 10,000 miles). I
> > always wear a hole in the left glove, in the palm roughly between my
> > thumb and index finger. I notice the left grip is worn down too. I
> > buy good name brand gloves and don't move my hands around much
> > unless I'm in the twisties. Maybe it's the way I pivot my hand to
> > grab the clutch. Anybody else have this problem?
> Might I inquire what type of gloves you have?
> I have a full-length set of gloves with kevlar and so on, and they've
> survived a lot of motorcycling (15K miles) plus a lot of handling combative
> cats.
> It isn't easy for me to imagine wearing out gloves regularly.
> What material?
> How thick?
> Datesfat.
15K miles is not a lot of motorcycling. It's not a lot of
experience. There are things that are hard to imagine without
experiencing them, but regularly wearing out motorcycle gloves should
not be one of them.
For example, summer gloves are thin. Why? Because your hands get hot
in the summer in thicker gloves. They are thin leather, and typically
have only one layer, maybe two in the palms. They often have holes in
them for breathing. Those holes, treated to perspiration, sun, rain,
wind, twisting, bunching, pulling, and pressure, tend to enlarge at
stress points. Eventually, those strees points lead to failure
points, and tears begin. Tears become holes, and soon the gloves are
worn out.
Is it easier for you to imagine it now?
If you had experienced it, or heard about a rider who had experienced
it, say, 20 times in 30 years of riding, would you then find it easier
to imagine?
If not, why not?
Do you have to personally experience something before you can imagine
it, or does it just make it easier for your imagination if you
personally experience something before attempting to imagine it?
Isn't imagination supposed to allow you to contemplate things that are
outside of your own, perhaps limited, experience?
Just wondering.
Posted by Rob Kleinschmidt on October 29, 2009, 4:34 pm
On Oct 29, 10:38 am, "tomor...@erols.com"
> For example, summer gloves are thin. Why? Because your hands get hot
> in the summer in thicker gloves. They are thin leather, and typically
> have only one layer, maybe two in the palms. They often have holes in
> them for breathing. Those holes, treated to perspiration, sun, rain,
> wind, twisting, bunching, pulling, and pressure, tend to enlarge at
> stress points. Eventually, those strees points lead to failure
> points, and tears begin. Tears become holes, and soon the gloves are
> worn out.
It's also possible though that they're wearing out a little
prematurely. Only a one year lifetime seems a little short.
I'd suggest looking at the adjustment of the bars and controls.
and also the construction and fit of the gloves.
Even a very minor tweak on the position of a lever can
make huge difference in ease of operating the controls.
Perforated gloves always seem to tear more easily, and
some of the crap sold as motorcycle gear I wouldn't expect
to last a full season. Definitely buy good name brand stuff
No fun at all when the crap gloves you're wearing abrade
away on the pavement.
OTOH, I trade off between lightweight, medium and
winter gloves, so maybe a one year lifetime if they're
worn year round isn't so excessive.
Posted by Lew on October 29, 2009, 5:34 pm
On 29 Oct 2009, Rob Kleinschmidt wrote in
m
> It's also possible though that they're wearing out a little
> prematurely. Only a one year lifetime seems a little short.
> I'd suggest looking at the adjustment of the bars and controls.
> and also the construction and fit of the gloves.
>
I tried to notice my hands while riding today. Honda decided to
give my clutch lever an inch longer reach than my brake lever. When
I grab the clutch, I pivot on the webbing of my left hand to reach
it. That's where the friction and wear comes from, and all the padding
is on the palm and fingers, not the web area. My levers aren't
adjustable, but I'll figure something out.
--
Lew
Posted by Rob Kleinschmidt on October 29, 2009, 10:03 pm
> m
> I tried to notice my hands while riding today. Honda decided to
> give my clutch lever an inch longer reach than my brake lever. When
> I grab the clutch, I pivot on the webbing of my left hand to reach
> it. That's where the friction and wear comes from, and all the padding
> is on the palm and fingers, not the web area. My levers aren't
> adjustable, but I'll figure something out.
What I was thinking was just rotate the clutch lever on
the bars a little, unless the lever mounts are actually
welded to the bar.
If you also rotated the bars a little so your hands were
higher, I'd guess that might shift some weight off the
webs and to the outside of your hands.
Maybe you could do something with the grip too.
Good luck with it. Like I said, use a magic marker
to show you where things were positioned before you
started moving them. That way, you get some idea
how much you're changing stuff and can put it back
if you made it worse.
> always wear a hole in the left glove, in the palm roughly between my
> thumb and index finger. I notice the left grip is worn down too. I
> buy good name brand gloves and don't move my hands around much
> unless I'm in the twisties. Maybe it's the way I pivot my hand to
> grab the clutch. Anybody else have this problem?