Posted by tomorrow@erols.com on May 19, 2008, 4:42 pm
Geez, all these people and no one will answer the question. Well,
let me tell you, Ben, I save a LOT of money by riding my motorcycles.
1. Riding the Harley Street Glide to work in stop and go commuting
traffic saves me the cost of high blood pressure and heart medications
that I would have to take if I drove my turck every day.
2. Riding the Ducati Monster S4Rs in the mountains of West Virginia
saves me the cost of tickets on cruises and planes to the caribbean.
3. Buying hop-up bits for the Harley and Italian chrome (i.e. carbon
fiber) bits fro the Monster saves me the cost of shopping in malls for
curtains and bathmats and furniture and sofas and tile and ceiling
fans, etc.
4. The money I spend on racing is taken directly from the "what the
hell will I do when I get really old" fund, and if I race long enough,
it is my opinion that I will never get to the point of needing that
money, anyway!
Posted by Ben Kaufman on May 19, 2008, 11:05 pm
On Mon, 19 May 2008 13:42:42 -0700 (PDT), "tomorrow@erols.com"
>Geez, all these people and no one will answer the question. Well,
>let me tell you, Ben, I save a LOT of money by riding my motorcycles.
>1. Riding the Harley Street Glide to work in stop and go commuting
>traffic saves me the cost of high blood pressure and heart medications
>that I would have to take if I drove my turck every day.
>2. Riding the Ducati Monster S4Rs in the mountains of West Virginia
>saves me the cost of tickets on cruises and planes to the caribbean.
>3. Buying hop-up bits for the Harley and Italian chrome (i.e. carbon
>fiber) bits fro the Monster saves me the cost of shopping in malls for
>curtains and bathmats and furniture and sofas and tile and ceiling
>fans, etc.
>4. The money I spend on racing is taken directly from the "what the
>hell will I do when I get really old" fund, and if I race long enough,
>it is my opinion that I will never get to the point of needing that
>money, anyway!
Good points, Tim.
Ben
Posted by Lew on May 19, 2008, 4:47 pm
On 19 May 2008, Ben Kaufman wrote in
> A lot of cagers are getting envious about MC and scooter gas
> mileage. However, our two wheel vehicles tend to need a lot more
> maintenance. My bike needs new tires and a major tuneup every
> 10,000 mile . At $4.00/gallon I estimated that my 55mpg bike cost
> per mile was approximately 16 cents (I do not work on my bike).
> For comparison, I estimated that an economy car averaging 30mpg
> cost 15 cents per mile. I am curious to know what others' cost
> per mile are, not including insurance, registration or any other
> fees/fines. Please state whether you use a mechanic or do it
> yourself.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Ben
>
In 2006, when gas was $2.40/gallon, AAA estimated the cost of owning a
Honda Civic driven 10,000 miles a year to be $.505 per mile including
depreciation, insurance, etc.
I rode about 10,000 miles in the last year. Using my receipts (oil,
oil filters, fork oil, tires, chain, spark plugs, misc. stuff) and
adding the fractional cost of items that last longer than 10,000 miles
(sprockets, brakes, battery, etc.), I figure non-fuel costs to be about
$500 every 10,000 miles, or $.05 per mile. Add fuel cost of about $.08
per mile, and you get $.13 per mile.
My bike cost me $2500 and I wouldn't expect the value to go under $1500
in the next few years, so let's say $300-$400/year depreciation, or
$.03-$.04 per mile. The total cost for me then is about $.16-$.17 per
mile not including insurance. I do all my own maintenance except tires
since I don't have a balancer.
Even adding an extra $100 labor for the things I did myself and $110
for my insurance (time for a rant: I had no claims and my bike was one
year older so they raised it this year), the total cost of riding my
Nighthawk is under $.20 per mile, compared to over $.50 per mile for a
car.
That's comparing an old air-cooled Nighthawk with self-adjusting valves
and no fuel injection. If you run the numbers for a brand new BMW, it
may be closer to a car, but in my situation it's much cheaper to ride
my bike.
--
Lew
Posted by Ben Kaufman on May 19, 2008, 11:14 pm
>On 19 May 2008, Ben Kaufman wrote in
>> A lot of cagers are getting envious about MC and scooter gas
>> mileage. However, our two wheel vehicles tend to need a lot more
>> maintenance. My bike needs new tires and a major tuneup every
>> 10,000 mile . At $4.00/gallon I estimated that my 55mpg bike cost
>> per mile was approximately 16 cents (I do not work on my bike).
>> For comparison, I estimated that an economy car averaging 30mpg
>> cost 15 cents per mile. I am curious to know what others' cost
>> per mile are, not including insurance, registration or any other
>> fees/fines. Please state whether you use a mechanic or do it
>> yourself.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Ben
>>
>In 2006, when gas was $2.40/gallon, AAA estimated the cost of owning a
>Honda Civic driven 10,000 miles a year to be $.505 per mile including
>depreciation, insurance, etc.
>I rode about 10,000 miles in the last year. Using my receipts (oil,
>oil filters, fork oil, tires, chain, spark plugs, misc. stuff) and
>adding the fractional cost of items that last longer than 10,000 miles
>(sprockets, brakes, battery, etc.), I figure non-fuel costs to be about
>$500 every 10,000 miles, or $.05 per mile. Add fuel cost of about $.08
>per mile, and you get $.13 per mile.
>My bike cost me $2500 and I wouldn't expect the value to go under $1500
>in the next few years, so let's say $300-$400/year depreciation, or
>$.03-$.04 per mile. The total cost for me then is about $.16-$.17 per
>mile not including insurance. I do all my own maintenance except tires
>since I don't have a balancer.
>Even adding an extra $100 labor for the things I did myself and $110
>for my insurance (time for a rant: I had no claims and my bike was one
>year older so they raised it this year), the total cost of riding my
>Nighthawk is under $.20 per mile, compared to over $.50 per mile for a
>car.
>That's comparing an old air-cooled Nighthawk with self-adjusting valves
>and no fuel injection. If you run the numbers for a brand new BMW, it
>may be closer to a car, but in my situation it's much cheaper to ride
>my bike.
It's interesting how close your costs were to mine. I paid about $840 for 10K,
having my mechanic do everything. Subtracting the labor (and tax on labor) for
everything but the tires brought it to about $500 too. I have not had to
replace sprocket and chain yet but ZR-7S's valves don't adjust themselves.
:-(
Thanks for playing. ;-)
Ben
Posted by Joe on May 19, 2008, 10:23 pm
My Valkyrie gets worse MPG than my 1997 Nissan Sentra... But is a lot more
fun to ride. :)
Joe in Northern, NJ - V#8013-R
Currently Riding The "Mother Ship"
http://yunx.com/valk.htm
Ride a motorcycle in or near NJ?
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>A lot of cagers are getting envious about MC and scooter gas mileage.
>However,
> our two wheel vehicles tend to need a lot more maintenance. My bike needs
> new
> tires and a major tuneup every 10,000 mile . At $4.00/gallon I estimated
> that
> my 55mpg bike cost per mile was approximately 16 cents (I do not work on
> my
> bike). For comparison, I estimated that an economy car averaging 30mpg
> cost 15
> cents per mile. I am curious to know what others' cost per mile are,
> not
> including insurance, registration or any other fees/fines. Please state
> whether
> you use a mechanic or do it yourself.
> Thanks.
> Ben
>let me tell you, Ben, I save a LOT of money by riding my motorcycles.
>1. Riding the Harley Street Glide to work in stop and go commuting
>traffic saves me the cost of high blood pressure and heart medications
>that I would have to take if I drove my turck every day.
>2. Riding the Ducati Monster S4Rs in the mountains of West Virginia
>saves me the cost of tickets on cruises and planes to the caribbean.
>3. Buying hop-up bits for the Harley and Italian chrome (i.e. carbon
>fiber) bits fro the Monster saves me the cost of shopping in malls for
>curtains and bathmats and furniture and sofas and tile and ceiling
>fans, etc.
>4. The money I spend on racing is taken directly from the "what the
>hell will I do when I get really old" fund, and if I race long enough,
>it is my opinion that I will never get to the point of needing that
>money, anyway!