Posted by P.Roehling on June 20, 2006, 6:08 pm
> By some wonderful quirk in the Pennsylvania law, if you don't have a
> valid MC license, it is also illegal to ride without a helmet. If you
> have a valid license, it's not illegal to go helmetless.
> FWIW, the driver is also being cited for "failure to yield."
I find it entertaining that the driver who *caused* the accident is being
fined $106.50, while Roethlisberger will pay $388. (This according to the
Los Angeles Times.)
Somebody in Pennsylvania has their priorities screwed up.
Pete
Posted by Bike Guy Joe on June 20, 2006, 7:35 pm
Turby wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 05:19:27 GMT, jam
> >muddy wrote:
> >> In article
> >>
> >>
> >>>Well, that wasn't the point. Ben Roethllisberger is a football player who
got
> >>>left-turned by a cager. He wasn't wearing a helmet so he got his face all
cut
> >>>up
> >>>on the cage's windshield. The eBay auction was a farce: the guy was selling
a
> >>>cardboard box.
> >>
> >>
> >> He's being prosecuted for no helmet or insurance.
> I believe that's "helmet or license."
> >I don't know about insurance, but I thought he didn't need to wear a
> >helmet where he was riding.
> By some wonderful quirk in the Pennsylvania law, if you don't have a
> valid MC license, it is also illegal to ride without a helmet. If you
> have a valid license, it's not illegal to go helmetless.
> FWIW, the driver is also being cited for "failure to yield."
> --
> Turby the Turbosurfer
The PA law is that if you haven't had your license for two years, you
have to wear a helmet. He didn't have a license, so he was also sited
for no helmet while operating a MC....as he should have been.
Still the person who turned left in front of him should be paying the
medical bills and reconstructive surgery cost.
Posted by .p.jm on June 20, 2006, 8:37 pm
wrote:
>Turby wrote:
>> On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 05:19:27 GMT, jam
>>
>> >muddy wrote:
>> >> In article
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>Well, that wasn't the point. Ben Roethllisberger is a football player who
got
>> >>>left-turned by a cager. He wasn't wearing a helmet so he got his face all
cut
>> >>>up
>> >>>on the cage's windshield. The eBay auction was a farce: the guy was
selling a
>> >>>cardboard box.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> He's being prosecuted for no helmet or insurance.
>>
>> I believe that's "helmet or license."
>>
>> >I don't know about insurance, but I thought he didn't need to wear a
>> >helmet where he was riding.
>>
>> By some wonderful quirk in the Pennsylvania law, if you don't have a
>> valid MC license, it is also illegal to ride without a helmet. If you
>> have a valid license, it's not illegal to go helmetless.
>>
>> FWIW, the driver is also being cited for "failure to yield."
>>
>> --
>> Turby the Turbosurfer
> The PA law is that if you haven't had your license for two years, you
>have to wear a helmet. He didn't have a license, so he was also sited
>for no helmet while operating a MC....as he should have been.
> Still the person who turned left in front of him should be paying the
>medical bills and reconstructive surgery cost.
And likely will, if found to be 'at fault'.
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Posted by matt weber on June 21, 2006, 7:46 pm
On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 00:37:16 GMT, .p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com
wrote:
>wrote:
>>
>>Turby wrote:
>>> On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 05:19:27 GMT, jam
>>>
>>> >muddy wrote:
>>> >> In article
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>Well, that wasn't the point. Ben Roethllisberger is a football player who
got
>>> >>>left-turned by a cager. He wasn't wearing a helmet so he got his face all
cut
>>> >>>up
>>> >>>on the cage's windshield. The eBay auction was a farce: the guy was
selling a
>>> >>>cardboard box.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> He's being prosecuted for no helmet or insurance.
>>>
>>> I believe that's "helmet or license."
>>>
>>> >I don't know about insurance, but I thought he didn't need to wear a
>>> >helmet where he was riding.
>>>
>>> By some wonderful quirk in the Pennsylvania law, if you don't have a
>>> valid MC license, it is also illegal to ride without a helmet. If you
>>> have a valid license, it's not illegal to go helmetless.
>>>
>>> FWIW, the driver is also being cited for "failure to yield."
>>>
>>> --
>>> Turby the Turbosurfer
>>
>> The PA law is that if you haven't had your license for two years, you
>>have to wear a helmet. He didn't have a license, so he was also sited
>>for no helmet while operating a MC....as he should have been.
>>
>> Still the person who turned left in front of him should be paying the
>>medical bills and reconstructive surgery cost.
> And likely will, if found to be 'at fault'.
Perhap, but most states also have contributory negligence on the
books. Mr. Roethlisberger had no business being on the road with a
Hayabusa. I.E. he shouldn't have been there to be hit.
To be honest, I think anyone who rides a Hayabusa without appropriate
gear (boots, gloves, jacket, and helmet) is courting disaster.
Posted by Timberwoof on June 21, 2006, 8:16 pm
> On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 00:37:16 GMT, .p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com
> wrote:
>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>Turby wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 05:19:27 GMT, jam
> >>>
> >>> >muddy wrote:
> >>> >> In article
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>>Well, that wasn't the point. Ben Roethllisberger is a football player
> >>> >>>who got
> >>> >>>left-turned by a cager. He wasn't wearing a helmet so he got his face
> >>> >>>all cut
> >>> >>>up
> >>> >>>on the cage's windshield. The eBay auction was a farce: the guy was
> >>> >>>selling a
> >>> >>>cardboard box.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> He's being prosecuted for no helmet or insurance.
> >>>
> >>> I believe that's "helmet or license."
> >>>
> >>> >I don't know about insurance, but I thought he didn't need to wear a
> >>> >helmet where he was riding.
> >>>
> >>> By some wonderful quirk in the Pennsylvania law, if you don't have a
> >>> valid MC license, it is also illegal to ride without a helmet. If you
> >>> have a valid license, it's not illegal to go helmetless.
> >>>
> >>> FWIW, the driver is also being cited for "failure to yield."
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Turby the Turbosurfer
> >>
> >> The PA law is that if you haven't had your license for two years, you
> >>have to wear a helmet. He didn't have a license, so he was also sited
> >>for no helmet while operating a MC....as he should have been.
> >>
> >> Still the person who turned left in front of him should be paying the
> >>medical bills and reconstructive surgery cost.
> >
> > And likely will, if found to be 'at fault'.
> Perhap, but most states also have contributory negligence on the
> books. Mr. Roethlisberger had no business being on the road with a
> Hayabusa. I.E. he shouldn't have been there to be hit.
>
> To be honest, I think anyone who rides a Hayabusa without appropriate
> gear (boots, gloves, jacket, and helmet) is courting disaster.
I'd edit that sentence by adding the word "almost" after "think" and I'd
strike "thout appropriate gear (boots, gloves, jacket, and helmet)". :p
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> valid MC license, it is also illegal to ride without a helmet. If you
> have a valid license, it's not illegal to go helmetless.
> FWIW, the driver is also being cited for "failure to yield."