Posted by Jack Hunt on January 6, 2008, 1:45 pm
On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 18:18:01 +0000, totallydeadmailbox@yahoo.co.uk (The Older
Gentleman) wrote:
> it was not a super-popular model
When did that become part of the argument? If you're going to buy a bike and
keep it for a long time, make sure you buy something that's going to be a
popular item 20 years from now.
I'm going to get into the crystal ball business, I can make a fortune.
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Jack
Posted by Bob Scott on January 6, 2008, 10:30 am
>On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 08:49:00 +0000, totallydeadmailbox@yahoo.co.uk (The Older
>Gentleman) wrote:
>>Utter and complete nonsense.
>See above. Try it for yourself.
Might be the case in the US but it certainly wasn't in the UK last year.
Certainly spares for late '80s & early '90s CBRs aren't a problem. Mind
you, spares for my mid '80s, limited edition, never a UK model 750
aren't as easy to get a hold of. Got to go to Dave Silver for them.
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Bob Scott
Posted by The Older Gentleman on January 6, 2008, 10:54 am
> >On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 08:49:00 +0000, totallydeadmailbox@yahoo.co.uk (The Older
> >Gentleman) wrote:
> >
> >>Utter and complete nonsense.
> >
> >See above. Try it for yourself.
> >
> Might be the case in the US
Well, on the example he gave me, it isn't a problem as regards Honda.
Just crap dealers.
We have them here, too, of course. I can understand dealers not keeping
parts for elderly bikes on the shelf, but I do get irritated when they
say they can't be obtained, because I know full well that they can.
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Posted by Ken Abrams on January 6, 2008, 11:45 am
>>Utter and complete nonsense.
> See above. Try it for yourself.
You are jumping to unsupported conclusions again (still).
A single incident does not a pattern make and a single incident does not
mean whatever you mistakenly believe it to mean.
The simple fact that their initial response was "We will try to order it."
directly refutes your claim that they offer no support.
If you actually dig long enough, instead of just pulling wild guesses out of
your ass, I think you will find that they don't GUARANTEE support for things
over XX years old (more like 20 I think) but will always try......feeble
though the attempt may be.
Over the years I have been amazed at some of the 20 year old "real" Honda
parts they have been able to come up with. There have also been cases where
they can't get things that old from Honda and won't take their time to root
them out somewhere else. That should be no surprise to anybody though.
Posted by The Older Gentleman on January 6, 2008, 1:23 pm
> Once again for the slow readers, I never said you can't get the old parts. I
> said Honda doesn't make them any more. And they don't.
You said Honda don't make parts for bikes *more than 10 years old*, and
this is nonsense.
>
> The pimple-faced kid behind the counter may try to order them for you, not
> knowing that they don't exist. The book he's looking at may be older than he
> is. That does not equal corporate Honda support, that is a kid that doesn't
> know anything except how to punch in a part number, doing what he's trained to
> do and telling you whatever you want to hear.
That's a dealer failing, not a Honda Motor Co failing.
>
> When the rubber meets the road, Honda doesn't make the part anymore and unless
> someone has a NOS item, you're not going to get it from Honda.
If Honda ceases making parts, yes, right, but this is the same of *all*
vehicles. There comes a point when you stop making bits for them. When
there are so few on the road that it's just not worthwhile.
>
> I've dealt with too many of the 20+ year old bikes, and I know what my
> experience and the experience of other old Honda V4 owners has been.
> Ignition modules are in very short supply, and all of them are used. Just
> this year someone came out with a module that will work, but it costs
> nearly as much as the value of the bike. You won't get one from Honda.
> They stopped making them 15 years ago and the stuff on the shelves has
> dried up.
You seem to deliberately be picking one of Honda's least successful
model lines - the early V4s.
Look, I can order brand new OE Honda stuff for my 1974 SL125, if I want
to. OK, not stuff like panels, tanks and suchlike, but certainly service
items and even quite a few engine parts.
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K1100LT 750SS CB400F CD250 SL125
GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 ANORAK#06 YTC#3
BOF#30 WUSS#5 The bells, the bells.....
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