Posted by BigBen on April 11, 2005, 11:29 am
Hi All,
The title says it all... I already know the bad reputation of Teflon
in bike engines (with dry or wet clutch).
So, which friction reducers are left for engines of dry clutch bikes?
Thank you,
Big Ben
Posted by G C on April 11, 2005, 6:56 pm
BigBen wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> The title says it all... I already know the bad reputation of Teflon
> in bike engines (with dry or wet clutch).
>
> So, which friction reducers are left for engines of dry clutch bikes?
>
> Thank you,
> Big Ben
I hope you don't think the role of oil in your engine is to reduce
friction. It is there to carry away heat. If you don't understand the
purpose of the fluid in your bike, why are you trying to modify it? Use
what the manufacturer lists in the bloody manual. After all, they spent
absolutly no development time on the bike and haven't got Foggy's Notion
of what it requires!
If you feel you've got to add something slippery to it, J.O. in the sump.
You can quit asking now.
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Posted by BigBen on April 11, 2005, 10:10 pm
>I hope you don't think the role of oil in your engine is to reduce
>friction. It is there to carry away heat. If you don't understand the
Has it never occurred to you that less friction means less heat?
>what the manufacturer lists in the bloody manual. After all, they spent
>absolutly no development time on the bike and haven't got Foggy's Notion
>of what it requires!
Right! JASO doesn't know any better when they developed a
specification - MB - for less friction than the traditional MA class
oils, which (MA) is meant to be used in wet clutch systems.
Do you know anything about writing user manuals? (I should do, having
been translating them for about 15 years.) The more you can reuse from
one model/manual to another, the more economical it gets to the
manufacturer ;-)
Of course, I know bloody well that my bike's engine is not going to
fail, at least not because of the oil, if I use an oil meant for a wet
clutch engine. Which is fine for the manufacturer; not so good to me,
since I could be using less fuel, without hurting my engine any bit
more.
Regards,
Big Ben.
>If you feel you've got to add something slippery to it, J.O. in the sump.
>You can quit asking now.
Posted by Rob Kleinschmidt on April 11, 2005, 10:32 pm
BigBen wrote:
> Of course, I know bloody well that my bike's engine is not going to
> fail, at least not because of the oil, if I use an oil meant for a
wet
> clutch engine. Which is fine for the manufacturer; not so good to me,
> since I could be using less fuel, without hurting my engine any bit
> more.
Wouldn't it be better to just dump whatever you figure will do
the trick into the engine then report the results ?
I seriously doubt you're going to find any miracle oil by
asking in this forum. Golden Spectro is popular with the
BMW groups (wet clutch). Nobody reports any spectacular
milage results. Best of luck with your experiments.
Posted by Rob Kleinschmidt on April 11, 2005, 10:35 pm
Rob Kleinschmidt wrote:
> BigBen wrote:
> > Of course, I know bloody well that my bike's engine is not going to
> > fail, at least not because of the oil, if I use an oil meant for a
> wet
> > clutch engine. Which is fine for the manufacturer; not so good to
me,
> > since I could be using less fuel, without hurting my engine any bit
> > more.
> Wouldn't it be better to just dump whatever you figure will do
> the trick into the engine then report the results ?
> I seriously doubt you're going to find any miracle oil by
> asking in this forum. Golden Spectro is popular with the
> BMW groups (wet clutch). Nobody reports any spectacular
> milage results. Best of luck with your experiments.
And of course I meant dry clutch.
>
> The title says it all... I already know the bad reputation of Teflon
> in bike engines (with dry or wet clutch).
>
> So, which friction reducers are left for engines of dry clutch bikes?
>
> Thank you,
> Big Ben