Posted by Mike Corey on December 30, 2007, 3:52 pm
I just bought a restored 1974 Honda CR250M Elsinore. Now I need to buy a
new right foot. The kick starter on this thing has reared up and bit me
so many times in the last couple hours, I may never walk the same again.
Is there a trick to starting these things?
I've been told the timing may be off a bit, but don't have a spark plug
hole dial indicator to correctly set the timing. Could it be the timing,
or is it something else?
Point gap is correct at .012 and look to be new. Spark plug is fine. All
electrical connections look sound.
It does have a high compression Wiseco piston, so maybe I just have to
learn to live with this? Damn, I need to get some boots with a steel
shank in them.
"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and
degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks nothing is
worth a war, is worse." --- John Stuart Mill:
Posted by Joe on December 30, 2007, 4:08 pm
I'm certainly no expert, but the timing may indeed be off. If it fires off
before that piston is close enough to TDC, it can, and will kick back...
Solution? always park it at the top of a long hill and bump / jump start it
that way in second gear?
Good luck with it... Imagine if it was a Kawasaki H2 750 two stroke... :)
Joe in Northern, NJ - V#8013-R
Currently Riding The "Mother Ship"
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I just bought a restored 1974 Honda CR250M Elsinore. Now I need to buy a
new right foot. The kick starter on this thing has reared up and bit me
so many times in the last couple hours, I may never walk the same again.
Is there a trick to starting these things?
I've been told the timing may be off a bit, but don't have a spark plug
hole dial indicator to correctly set the timing. Could it be the timing,
or is it something else?
Point gap is correct at .012 and look to be new. Spark plug is fine. All
electrical connections look sound.
It does have a high compression Wiseco piston, so maybe I just have to
learn to live with this? Damn, I need to get some boots with a steel
shank in them.
"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and
degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks nothing is
worth a war, is worse." --- John Stuart Mill:
Posted by Wolfie on December 30, 2007, 4:49 pm
Joe wrote:
> I'm certainly no expert, but the timing may indeed be off. If it fires off
> before that piston is close enough to TDC, it can, and will kick back...
>
> Solution? always park it at the top of a long hill and bump / jump start it
> that way in second gear?
>
> Good luck with it... Imagine if it was a Kawasaki H2 750 two stroke... :)
>
> Joe in Northern, NJ - V#8013-R
>
> Currently Riding The "Mother Ship"
> http://yunx.com/valk.htm
>
> Ride a motorcycle in or near NJ?
> http://tinyurl.com/5apkg
>
>
> I just bought a restored 1974 Honda CR250M Elsinore. Now I need to buy a
> new right foot. The kick starter on this thing has reared up and bit me
> so many times in the last couple hours, I may never walk the same again.
> Is there a trick to starting these things?
>
> I've been told the timing may be off a bit, but don't have a spark plug
> hole dial indicator to correctly set the timing. Could it be the timing,
> or is it something else?
>
> Point gap is correct at .012 and look to be new. Spark plug is fine. All
> electrical connections look sound.
>
> It does have a high compression Wiseco piston, so maybe I just have to
> learn to live with this? Damn, I need to get some boots with a steel
> shank in them.
>
>
> "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and
> degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks nothing is
> worth a war, is worse." --- John Stuart Mill:
>
>
The trick was to prime the carb, and give the kickstart a kick or two
with the ignition off, until it was at the point when it was at max
compression. In other words, at its hardest to push down. Then turn on
the ignition, and give it a good firm kick. That always worked for
me.
--
Wolfie
Posted by Bruce Richmond on December 30, 2007, 4:30 pm
On Dec 30, 3:52 pm, AWR7MM...@webtv.net (Mike Corey) wrote:
> I just bought a restored 1974 Honda CR250M Elsinore. Now I need to buy a
> new right foot. The kick starter on this thing has reared up and bit me
> so many times in the last couple hours, I may never walk the same again.
> Is there a trick to starting these things?
> I've been told the timing may be off a bit, but don't have a spark plug
> hole dial indicator to correctly set the timing. Could it be the timing,
> or is it something else?
> Point gap is correct at .012 and look to be new. Spark plug is fine. All
> electrical connections look sound.
> It does have a high compression Wiseco piston, so maybe I just have to
> learn to live with this? Damn, I need to get some boots with a steel
> shank in them.
> "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and
> degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks nothing is
> worth a war, is worse." --- John Stuart Mill:
Does sound like it is advanced too far. Any markings to go by or does
it have to be set by piston position. Either way you should check
that the timing is set right. If it is advanced too far it would not
be good to run it that way even if you can get it started.
Bruce
Posted by Noble Wolf on December 30, 2007, 7:45 pm
On Dec 30, 12:52�pm, AWR7MM...@webtv.net (Mike Corey) wrote:
> I've been told the timing may be off a bit, but don't have a spark plug
> hole dial indicator to correctly set the timing. Could it be the timing,
> or is it something else?
The stock carburetor has an enrichener device built into the side of
the carb, and it won't work right with the slide open.
Turn the idle speed screw all the way out so the slide is fully closed
before kicking the engine over.
The enrichener is supposed to supply enough fuel and air through the
bypass port to start the engine when it's cold. You shouldn't need to
open the throttle at all.
If the engine is still kicking back when it's warmed up, turn the idle
mixture screw clockwise about 1/2 a turn to richen up the idle mixture.
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> before that piston is close enough to TDC, it can, and will kick back...
>
> Solution? always park it at the top of a long hill and bump / jump start it
> that way in second gear?
>
> Good luck with it... Imagine if it was a Kawasaki H2 750 two stroke... :)
>
> Joe in Northern, NJ - V#8013-R
>
> Currently Riding The "Mother Ship"
> http://yunx.com/valk.htm
>
> Ride a motorcycle in or near NJ?
> http://tinyurl.com/5apkg
>
>
> I just bought a restored 1974 Honda CR250M Elsinore. Now I need to buy a
> new right foot. The kick starter on this thing has reared up and bit me
> so many times in the last couple hours, I may never walk the same again.
> Is there a trick to starting these things?
>
> I've been told the timing may be off a bit, but don't have a spark plug
> hole dial indicator to correctly set the timing. Could it be the timing,
> or is it something else?
>
> Point gap is correct at .012 and look to be new. Spark plug is fine. All
> electrical connections look sound.
>
> It does have a high compression Wiseco piston, so maybe I just have to
> learn to live with this? Damn, I need to get some boots with a steel
> shank in them.
>
>
> "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and
> degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks nothing is
> worth a war, is worse." --- John Stuart Mill:
>
>