Disc brake conversion

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Posted by JS on March 24, 2008, 8:59 am
 
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I finally got my XS400 running good, and it is doing great. Thanks for
all of the help I have recieved from the group. I am not happy with
the excession travel required to engage the rear drum brake, so I am
thinking of going with a more responsive disc brake. This is a 1980
frame. What will be required to convert it to a disc wheel? I already
have the rear caliper, MC, lines, and pedal actuator. I am assuming
that the wheel will used all the same stuff as the drum wheel, maybe
need a different spacer. The one thing that concerns me is the
stabilizer arm for the caliper. Does the caliper use the same arm as
the drum, or is it different? I haven't ordered a wheel as of yet.
Also, I am assuming that any XS mag wheel will fit on this, like maybe
one from an XS650? Can the shafty wheels be converted to sprocket
easily? Thank you guys and gals.

J S White
Network Administrator / CISO

92-KDX200
83-GS8650L
80-XS400-Jap-Cafe-Racer
78-CB750
69-CD175

Posted by The Older Gentleman on March 24, 2008, 9:24 am
 

Jesus. First, the easiest thing to do is sort out your rear drum brake.
There is nothing wrong with XS rear drums, and I think yours must need
attention if it's as bad as you say it is.

"Excessive travel" - have you tried winding in the adjuster at the end
of the brake rod, where it intersects with the operating arm on the
drum?

If you insist on converting it to disc (and it's a waste of time, as at
least three-quarters of the braking is handled by the front wheel), then
the easiest way to do it will be to find a disc XS400 rear wheel. You
will also need to source a new brake torque arm.

The caliper will need a proper rear wheel caliper mount.

An XS650 wheel almost certainly won't fit. Look for an XS400 one.

Converting shafty wheels to chain drive is hugely difficult and a
complete waste of time.

I repeat - get someone who knows a bit more than you do to look at your
existing rear drum set-up. It should be easily capable of locking the
rear wheel, and if it isn't, there's something wrong with it.

What you're proposing to do will involve a lot of time and hassle for no
tangible benefit.


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Posted by Mark Olson on March 24, 2008, 9:53 am
 The Older Gentleman wrote:


In all seriousness, the preceding sentence should be considered for
inclusion in your .sig.  Many modifications proposed on this newsgroup
fall into that category.  I have never been able to figure out why
people willingly undertake a huge amount of work in order to avoid doing
the blindingly obvious thing, and simply returning the troublesome part
back to original condition.

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Posted by The Older Gentleman on March 24, 2008, 10:09 am
 

Heh. I've been meaning to update it.


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"What you're proposing to do will involve a lot of time
and hassle for no tangible benefit."

Posted by JS on March 24, 2008, 10:36 am
 On Mar 24, 10:09 am, totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk (The Older
Gentleman) wrote:

Wow. So you guys assume that just because you think something is
stupid, that the person trying it is stupid too? I am doing this
because I want to. If you don't want to help, then don't bother
replying. I don't remember usenet belonging to you. Last time I
checked it belongs to everyone. I can very easily buy anything and
convert anything I want. The point was not buying anything I didn't
need. And I know plenty enough about the drum to make it work, you
simply don't understand my bike and my preferences. Are you telling me
that you should use the rear brake? What kind of riding do you do
anyway? Everyone knows that 75% of stopping is in the front brake.
Unfortunately the front brake is not the one you need to use in all
situations, especially with certain geometries and terrain. Of course
I needn't bother telling you this, since you already know everything.
I don't tell you what to do, don't tell me what to do. It is just a
shame. I was only asking for freindly advice. Since you aren't
friendly, don't bother me. The torque arm is what I was wondering
about, thanks for the info, I will just make one myself. Enjoy your
position at the top of the world. Oh wait, that is in the USA.

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