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Flat Tire Bill Amann Jr 11-25-2006
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Posted by Bill Amann Jr on November 25, 2006, 6:37 pm
Hay everyone I got a flat tire on the rear on my Busa. In were in the middle
of a Indian summer here in central Ohio. The dealer can't fixed till next
week. Can I just plug it myself and keep the speed down below a 100 and be
alright! The tire is a Dunlop 206 and the tread is about half gone. All I
want to is take a ride around here local no long rides next summer I'll get
a new tire.. Thanks Bill



Posted by Gene Cash on November 26, 2006, 6:07 am

> Hay everyone I got a flat tire on the rear on my Busa. In were in the middle
> of a Indian summer here in central Ohio. The dealer can't fixed till next
> week. Can I just plug it myself and keep the speed down below a 100 and be
> alright! The tire is a Dunlop 206 and the tread is about half gone. All I
> want to is take a ride around here local no long rides next summer I'll get
> a new tire.. Thanks Bill

Spock, where's the translator computer? I think it's a new alien language.

-gc

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ago. -- superbikeplanet.com

Posted by The Older Gentleman on November 26, 2006, 6:47 am

> those little coin operated air compressors at self service gas
> stations don't produce enough air to seat the beads...

I once tried using a foot pump to do that. The gauge got up to something
like 80psi and I was about to have a coronary when there was a bloody
great BANG! and the pump exploded :-))


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Posted by Jello Pudding on November 27, 2006, 8:49 am

Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:

> You didn't use enough soap and water on the bead. That's one of the
> secrets of mounting tires. If you use enough soap and water the bead will
> seat at 40psi or a little above. It's also a hell of a lot easier to get
> the tire on and off.

Using a low capacity coin-operated compressor, you cannot even trap 40
psi to seat the beads on some stiff carcass tires. I had to wrap the
cable of a coffin hoist around the circumference of one tire to get the
beads to make a seal that would hold enough air to make the bead begin
to cooperate.

I don't recommend using dishwashing soap. It's intentionally caustic
for cutting grease on dishes and pots and pans.

When you remove your soap-mounted tire to repair or replace it, you may
notice that the aluminum rim is grey and corroded, or even *pitted* by
the caustic soap and chromed spoke nipples will be rusty.
>
> The other big secret is where to put the tire irons on the tire while
> your going over the rim, when either coming on or coming off. There's
> a sweet spot where you put the second iron, too far away or too close
> to the first and you will be all day at working the tire over the rim. If
> you get it right you can walk around the rim with both irons and the
> tire slips over as easy as pie.

There's an even bigger secret that I only learned from reading the
generic stuff that I usually ignore in home repair manuals. It's the
"drop center" trick.

You want to avoid allowing the first bead to go down over the bead
retaining ramp on the lower side of the wheel. Keep the first bead in
the "drop center" of the wheel, if at all possible.

The drop center is that smaller diameter center part of the wheel.
Keeping the first bead in the drop center gives you a lot more room to
work your tire levers.

You may have noticed that there are 12-inch long tire levers for
amateur mechanics to use, but the professional manager of a motorcycle
tire store will have a 6-inch long lever he keeps in his shirt pocket.
The short lever works great for people who know exactly what they are
doing when they are spooning a tire onto the rim.

Some tires have very flexible carcasses, and you can easily keep the
first bead in the drop center, but other tires, like the Bridgetone
BT-45's have incredibly stiff cacasses and the tire resists the drop
center strategy. I actually had to pay a tire ape $15.00 to mount a
BT-45.



Posted by Rick Cortese on November 27, 2006, 5:05 pm
Jello Pudding wrote:
> Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>
>
>>You didn't use enough soap and water on the bead. That's one of the
>>secrets of mounting tires. If you use enough soap and water the bead will
>>seat at 40psi or a little above. It's also a hell of a lot easier to get
>>the tire on and off.
>
>
> Using a low capacity coin-operated compressor, you cannot even trap 40
> psi to seat the beads on some stiff carcass tires. I had to wrap the
> cable of a coffin hoist around the circumference of one tire to get the
> beads to make a seal that would hold enough air to make the bead begin
> to cooperate.

Wasn't paying full attention but I think... One of the craziest things I
saw using WD40 to seat a tire. The goof sprayed it inside the tire and
sparked it. The explosion seated the bead and the knucklehead survived.


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