Posted by Snowca on August 27, 2010, 11:39 am
The Older Gentleman ha scritto:
>> Since he doesn't
>> do Hondas he sent it to his buddy who is supossedly a guru.
>Ha! Heard that before.
>>He says the carbs(
>> or just the left one) is so badly pitted there is no saving it, he tried
and
>> has obviously failed.
>Well, here's a thing. What's pitted? I assume he means corroded. That's
>possible, but it would have to be appalling to be unrecoverable.
>Assuming you can ultrasound the carbs, then the rest is new jets,
>needles, O-rings and the like.
>>The only reason I'm doing some investigating myself is
>> cause I WANT TO RIDE MY BIKE, damn it. My plan was to forward ideas to
them,
>> not do this myself.
>>
>> So are you saying the carbs from a nighthawk are good?
>Listen to Mark Olson. Those Honda twins, with the three valves per
>cylinder, were made in 250cc, 350cc and 450cc sizes. Bore centres were
>almost certainly the same. A pair of carbs from any one will fit your
>bike. The problem will be in sourcing a pair that doesn't need complete
>renovation like the existing ones do.
>I don't think the 250cc or 350cc versions were sold in the US, mind.
>A quick look on eBay,com (the US site) reveals a couple of sets of 450
>Rebel carbs for $250-300. That may be more than you paid for the bike,
>but that's the way the world turns. Bite the bullet, buy the damn
>things, and ride the bike.
And next time, if you know nothing, it's probably a good idea to get
>someone who knows to ask for you, or at least do the preliminary
>research.
Wow, what a guy! How do you expect people to learn? You sound more like you
should be on some chick forum, MEEEow, hiss hiss.
To all you other guys...thanks for your help.
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Posted by The Older Gentleman on August 27, 2010, 12:34 pm
> And next time, if you know nothing, it's probably a good idea to get
> >someone who knows to ask for you, or at least do the preliminary
> >research.
>
>
> Wow, what a guy! How do you expect people to learn? You sound more like you
> should be on some chick forum, MEEEow, hiss hiss.
It was good advice, and given with the best of intentions. So's the rest
of it. If you don't like the truth of it... *shrug*.
Even if you know nothing about the bike you've bought, you should have
been able to see that there are two, count 'em, two, carburettors on it.
Asking if a pair of carbs from a Honda 250 twin would fit might have
made better sense.
Messing with a bikes is a learning process that lasts for as long as you
do it. And everyone screws up in the early stages.
Incidentally, buying a skanky old bike that's been sitting around for a
decade and a half, and expecting it to be fixable for next to no cash,
is a mistake most of us have made at one stage or another. It just
doesn't work like that unless you're amazingy lucky.
Anyway, you've been given plenty of advice on how best to sort them, and
you've been pointed in the direction of repalcement carbs. Your call
now.
--
BMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Honda CB400F Triumph Street Triple
Kawasaki GT550 Suzuki TS250ERx2 GN250 Damn, back to eight bikes!
Try Googling before asking a damn silly question.
chateau dot murray at idnet dot com
Posted by ` on August 26, 2010, 5:57 pm
> So are you saying the carbs from a nighthawk are good?
I don't know if they are or not, but you might try poking around in an
online parts supplier like www.powersportspro.com to see whether the
part numbers look like they even begin to match.
You cannot buy a new carburetor body (mixing chamber) for your Rebel
separately, you have to buy whole assemblies...
http://www.powersportspro.com/pages/parts/viewbybrand/7/Honda.aspx
Honda : CMX450C AC (87) MOTORCYCLE, JPN, VIN# JH2PC171-HM100001 TO
JH2PC171-HM100972
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http://webservices.motorsportdealers.com/parts/partImages/HOM/2/14MM2G/ILLU=
ST/BMM27.Gif
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Both carburetors as an assembly:
25 SKU: 16100-MM2-761
CARBURETOR ASSY. (Honda Motorcycle Code 2491868) Use up to Engine SN
2102810 $611.45
25 SKU: 16100-MM2-762
CARBURETOR ASSY. (Honda Motorcycle Code 2606564) $611.45
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Just the lefthand carburetor assembly:
27 SKU: 16102-MM2-761
CARBURETOR ASSY., L. (Honda Motorcycle Code 2499903) Use up to Engine
SN VE28B A $301.56
27 SKU: 16102-MM2-762
CARBURETOR ASSY., L. (Honda Motorcycle Code 2609220) Use up to Engine
SN VE28B A $301.56
27 SKU: 16102-MM2-762
CARBURETOR ASSY., L. (Honda Motorcycle Code 2609220) Use from Engine
SN VE28B B $301.56
27 SKU: 16102-MM2-763
CARBURETOR ASSY., L. (Honda Motorcycle Code 4193744) Use up to Engine
SN VE28B A $301.56
27 SKU: 16102-MM2-763
CARBURETOR ASSY., L. (Honda Motorcycle Code 4193744) Use from Engine
SN VE28B B $301.56
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You might try websearching for the SKU number to see if anybody has a
used one for sale on ebay...
Posted by The Older Gentleman on August 27, 2010, 3:24 am
> I don't know if they are or not, but you might try poking around in an
> online parts supplier like www.powersportspro.com to see whether the
> part numbers look like they even begin to match.
Utter waste of time.
--
BMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Honda CB400F Triumph Street Triple
Kawasaki GT550 Suzuki TS250ERx2 GN250 Damn, back to eight bikes!
Try Googling before asking a damn silly question.
chateau dot murray at idnet dot com
Posted by bye4now on September 7, 2010, 7:14 pm
> I have a Honda Rebel 450. The carb has been rebuilt (3X) but the same issue
> still persists. I apparently need a new carb, this one has too much corrosion.
> Can I use new 250 rebel carb on this 1987 with no adaptation issues or are
> they completely different?
> --
Well, i'm not sure actually. You might have to go to an experienced
mechanic with this question?
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>> do Hondas he sent it to his buddy who is supossedly a guru.
>Ha! Heard that before.
>>He says the carbs(
>> or just the left one) is so badly pitted there is no saving it, he tried
and
>> has obviously failed.
>Well, here's a thing. What's pitted? I assume he means corroded. That's
>possible, but it would have to be appalling to be unrecoverable.
>Assuming you can ultrasound the carbs, then the rest is new jets,
>needles, O-rings and the like.
>>The only reason I'm doing some investigating myself is
>> cause I WANT TO RIDE MY BIKE, damn it. My plan was to forward ideas to
them,
>> not do this myself.
>>
>> So are you saying the carbs from a nighthawk are good?
>Listen to Mark Olson. Those Honda twins, with the three valves per
>cylinder, were made in 250cc, 350cc and 450cc sizes. Bore centres were
>almost certainly the same. A pair of carbs from any one will fit your
>bike. The problem will be in sourcing a pair that doesn't need complete
>renovation like the existing ones do.
>I don't think the 250cc or 350cc versions were sold in the US, mind.
>A quick look on eBay,com (the US site) reveals a couple of sets of 450
>Rebel carbs for $250-300. That may be more than you paid for the bike,
>but that's the way the world turns. Bite the bullet, buy the damn
>things, and ride the bike.