Posted by frogliver on July 6, 2010, 10:49 am
>> The one problem I have with those riveted
>> chains is that I have had chains break on long distance rides
> Lack of maintenance or ham-fisted installation, probably. I have never,
> ever, ever had a chain secured with a soft rivet break.
> Spring links - yes, known it to happen.
Spring links are the only thing I have experience with, that is why I asked
for advice. But I have learned to never place a lot of faith in anything
mechanical.
Besides, haven't you ever been an impetuous youth with a devil-may-care
attitude who got on a bike to go see a girlfriend with no concern for
mechanics? Or ran out of gas a few times, had a flat tire in your life.
Some, I would say most, people are not perfectionists and sometimes risk
having to deal with trials and tribulations in the pursuit of something they
just want to do, right now, if something goes wrong I will handle it.
That was me as a young guy when I got my first used Harley in 1960. Done a
lot of riding since and wouldn't trade a minute of it, breakdowns and all,
to have been rational about motorcycles. At this point in my life I am more
likely to ask for advice when I think I need it, sometimes just for
reassurance. Perfection, to me, is a sum total of many, many imperfections
in the same way that success can be 99% failure, and the whole can be
greater than the sum of its parts. If something came up that was important
enough, I would still hop on my bike and go even knowing that my chain was
stretched and needed replacing.
Posted by TOG@Toil on July 6, 2010, 11:35 am
ws:1jl74yv.1h00lrtbpvybnN%totallydeadmailbox@yahoo.co.uk...> frogliver <f_g=
li...@nospam.com> wrote:
> >> The one problem I have with those riveted
> >> chains is that I have had chains break on long distance rides
> > Lack of maintenance or ham-fisted installation, probably. I have never,
> > ever, ever had a chain secured with a soft rivet break.
> > Spring links - yes, known it to happen.
> Spring links are the only thing I have experience with, that is why I asked
> for advice. But I have learned to never place a lot of faith in anything
> mechanical.
I dunno. I've generally placed complete faith in my bikes. Too many
times to recall, I've just loaded them up and headed out abroad. If
you alwys stop to worry about what might happen, you'd never get
anywhere, but things always work out. I had a tube blow on a Honda
CB750 one Sunday in France, in 1983. We got that sorted. And then,
last year, a dirt cheap, er, dirt bike that I bought to go to the
Elefant Rally in Germany died 800 miles from home with a terminally
fried charging system and loom. I just abandoned it and got on a cheap
flight home. Those are the only 'serious' breakdowns I can remember in
over 30 years.
> Besides, haven't you ever been an impetuous youth with a devil-may-care
> attitude who got on a bike to go see a girlfriend with no concern for
> mechanics?
Heh. Oh yes. I look back at my teenage years, and marvel at just how
far I was prepared to travel, in poor weather, on a small bike, for a
f*ck.
> Or ran out of gas a few times,
Actually, on a bike, once only. On a borrowed Triumph Bonnie whose
reserve tank held, I discovered, petrol enough for six miles only.
Bastard thing.
> had a flat tire in your life.
Loads :-))
> Some, I would say most, people are not perfectionists and sometimes risk
> having to deal with trials and tribulations in the pursuit of something they
> just want to do, right now, if something goes wrong I will handle it.
> That was me as a young guy when I got my first used Harley in 1960. Done a
> lot of riding since and wouldn't trade a minute of it, breakdowns and all,
> to have been rational about motorcycles. At this point in my life I am more
> likely to ask for advice when I think I need it, sometimes just for
> reassurance. Perfection, to me, is a sum total of many, many imperfections
> in the same way that success can be 99% failure, and the whole can be
> greater than the sum of its parts. If something came up that was important
> enough, I would still hop on my bike and go even knowing that my chain was
> stretched and needed replacing.
Like the chance of another young dirty girl ;-)
Posted by ` on July 5, 2010, 12:11 am
> The manual calls for RK50NK or DID 50HDK, 102 links, but I could not find
> even a mention of these anywhere.
My 1986 GSXR750 had a 50-series chain, which was the same pitch
(5/8th's between pins) as a 530 chain, but had slightly thicker
sideplates.
I bought a 530 Heavy Duty 110 links from
> jcwhitney, the only one I thought I could figure out.
If it's not a self-oiling (o-ring) chain, you should return it and
order an RK o-ring chain, because the o-ring chain will last 2 or 3
times as long.
> I began to work on it
> and found that the chain on the bike has no master link. From what I read
> these may not be interchangeable so I need advice.
When you get your o-ring chain, you'll probably get a 530 rivet type
masterlink intended for o-ring chain and you might have to order a
clip-type masterlink if you like to remove your o-ring chain for
cleaning with kerosene.
Problem with a rivet type master link is you need to buy a riveting
tool.
I don't immerse my o-ring chains in kerosene, I just wipe them off.
So I use the clip type masterlink with a drop of red Loctite on the
master link.
The side plate and master link has to be degreased with gasoline or
methyl alcohol so the Loctite will stick to the parts.
Then, when it's time to replace the chain, I grind the ends of the
pins off of one link and pry the sideplate off with a screwdriver.
>> chains is that I have had chains break on long distance rides
> Lack of maintenance or ham-fisted installation, probably. I have never,
> ever, ever had a chain secured with a soft rivet break.
> Spring links - yes, known it to happen.