Measuring Radiator Flow

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Measuring Radiator Flow Manjo 01-21-2008
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Posted by Manjo on February 9, 2008, 8:43 am
e:
> >When I get the heads and cylinders off, I'm borrowing a bore gauge to
> >check the cylinders for out-of-round that may be allowing oil to seep
> >around the rings at high speed and burn-off on the piston crowns
> >leaving the carbon build-up.
>
> That would be easily checked with a compression or leak down test. =A0Burn=
ing oil
> is always accompanied with oil loss. =A0If you're not losing oil, you're n=
ot
> burning it. =A0Spark plugs will also tell you if you're burning oil or not=
.

Jack: I am loosing oil at the rate of about a quart every 800 miles.
The compression test bumps up fine. A leak down showed less than 2%
loss compression loss. It may be a valve guide problem that I intend
to check shortly.
>
> >I'm also going to ask the machine shop
> >guys to check the heads/ valves just in case oil is leaking around the
> >valve guides (I installed new valve seals last spring).
>
> Does it smoke?

Jack: No smoking, but when I'm leading my wife says she does smell
oil burning from time to time.

>
> What kind of intake and exhaust modifications have you done? =A0It sounds =
like
> you're idling rich.
>
JACK: Extensive changes to both. I've taken out the EPS duct work
and surge tank and have K&N filters mounted directly on each carb
intake port. The exhaust system is a Jardine set that's nearly
straight pipes. I've rejetted with larger main and idle jets to
enrichen the air-fuel mixture to match the higher air volume.

Manjo

Posted by Ken Abrams on February 9, 2008, 11:16 am


>JACK: Extensive changes to both. I've taken out the EPS duct work
>and surge tank and have K&N filters mounted directly on each carb
>intake port. The exhaust system is a Jardine set that's nearly
>straight pipes. I've rejetted with larger main and idle jets to
>enrichen the air-fuel mixture to match the higher air volume.

Grrrrr......It never occurred to you to mention ALL THAT when you first
posted the symptoms of your problem?? Crap.



Posted by Manjo on February 10, 2008, 12:03 pm
>
> >JACK: Extensive changes to both. I've taken out the EPS duct work
> >and surge tank and have K&N filters mounted directly on each carb
> >intake port. The exhaust system is a Jardine set that's nearly
> >straight pipes. I've rejetted with larger main and idle jets to
> >enrichen the air-fuel mixture to match the higher air volume.
>
> Grrrrr......It never occurred to you to mention ALL THAT when you first
> posted the symptoms of your problem?? Crap.

Sorry about the crap. This thread started out as a radiator flow
measurement question and evolved into a list of very helpful
suggestions and identification of other possibly contributing
elements. I've tried to provide as many details as possible at any
one time without distracting the reader.

I have everyone's suggestions gathered into one document that I will
use as a guide as I work through the bike.

Thanks.
Manjo

Posted by Jack Hunt on February 10, 2008, 2:07 pm

>No smoking, but when I'm leading my wife says she does smell
>oil burning from time to time.

If your valve guides are worn, you'll lose oil when the engine is coasting
(holding back). Have someone follow you down a long hill. Get in a high enough
gear that the bike will keep a decent speed down the hill with the throttle
closed. If it starts to smoke then (and only then), you're on the right track
when checking valve guides. New seals may fix the problem for a little while
but the permanent fix is to replace the valves and guides along with new seals.

--
Jack

Posted by Ken Abrams on January 23, 2008, 5:26 pm


> When I get the heads and cylinders off, ......

WHAT, AGAIN........?????

You do have a one track mind, don't you?

Here's my take: You are running RICH, causing the carbon buildup (how
paranoid does one have to be to actually MONITOR the carbon buildup in the
chamber ;-) ...).
As the engine heats up, it "likes" to be a little leaner. If you are way
rich, it will do exactly as you describe. Engines do not like to be rich
when hot.

I think you need to check your mixture......with an exhaust gas
analyzer....and then fix the carbs. or intake restriction or whatever it is
causing the rich mixture.

I cannot in my wildest imagination see how taking the heads off yet again
will help anything.


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