Posted by TOG@Toil on September 18, 2009, 11:44 am
> A friend went to Germany expecting to find an aftermarket similar to the H-D
> aftermarket in the states. He found none because it was essentially illegal
> to even change handlebars or brand/size of tires, let alone mufflers, etc.
This isn't quite right. The system is that aftermarket parts have to
be approved by the inspectorate, TUV. Their testing is very stringent
and expensive, and for small accessory companies, it isn't worth the
hassle or expense.
But if you gain TUV approval, that tells the rest of Europe that
you've cracked the big one, and your stuff is good.
Posted by Rob Kleinschmidt on September 18, 2009, 1:05 pm
> I see you've never owned a BMW. According to BMW NA, AG and all suppliers
> Rob owns the finest motorcycle in the world and should happily put up with
> any foibles without complaint. They said so in letters to customers. Nor,
> being good Germans, are they going to help Rob thwart their established
> supply system.
> A friend went to Germany expecting to find an aftermarket similar to the H-D
> aftermarket in the states. He found none because it was essentially illegal
> to even change handlebars or brand/size of tires, let alone mufflers, etc.
> They have the same reaction to motorcycle mod's as a devout Muslim has to
> seeing his teen daughter in a bikini in public.
Actually, there are some "sheddies" in Germany making some
really nice aftermarket high tech stuff for the bike, but you're
correct that they're working outside the established supply chain.
If you're in the orthodox chain, the idea of somebody marketing a
wierd top gear with one less tooth that mates with a stock gear by
using
bizarre gear tooth curves is probably horrifying beyond belief.
Cranking out strange and horrifying aftermarket parts from an backyard
machine shop may be a sort of Gemanic equivalent of sticking it to
the man.
Posted by Bruce Richmond on September 18, 2009, 11:59 pm
> > I see you've never owned a BMW. According to BMW NA, AG and all suppliers
> > Rob owns the finest motorcycle in the world and should happily put up with
> > any foibles without complaint. They said so in letters to customers. Nor,
> > being good Germans, are they going to help Rob thwart their established
> > supply system.
> > A friend went to Germany expecting to find an aftermarket similar to the H-D
> > aftermarket in the states. He found none because it was essentially illegal
> > to even change handlebars or brand/size of tires, let alone mufflers, etc.
> > They have the same reaction to motorcycle mod's as a devout Muslim has to
> > seeing his teen daughter in a bikini in public.
> Actually, there are some "sheddies" in Germany making some
> really nice aftermarket high tech stuff for the bike, but you're
> correct that they're working outside the established supply chain.
> If you're in the orthodox chain, the idea of somebody marketing a
> wierd top gear with one less tooth that mates with a stock gear by
> using
> bizarre gear tooth curves is probably horrifying beyond belief.
> Cranking out strange and horrifying aftermarket parts from an backyard
> machine shop may be a sort of Gemanic equivalent of sticking it to
> the man.
You might like to take a look here
http://www.wirthwein-motoren.de/index.php?function=cms_show&id=59
Posted by Bruce Richmond on September 19, 2009, 12:07 am
> > > I see you've never owned a BMW. According to BMW NA, AG and all suppliers
> > > Rob owns the finest motorcycle in the world and should happily put up with
> > > any foibles without complaint. They said so in letters to customers. Nor,
> > > being good Germans, are they going to help Rob thwart their established
> > > supply system.
> > > A friend went to Germany expecting to find an aftermarket similar to the H-D
> > > aftermarket in the states. He found none because it was essentially illegal
> > > to even change handlebars or brand/size of tires, let alone mufflers, etc.
> > > They have the same reaction to motorcycle mod's as a devout Muslim has to
> > > seeing his teen daughter in a bikini in public.
> > Actually, there are some "sheddies" in Germany making some
> > really nice aftermarket high tech stuff for the bike, but you're
> > correct that they're working outside the established supply chain.
> > If you're in the orthodox chain, the idea of somebody marketing a
> > wierd top gear with one less tooth that mates with a stock gear by
> > using
> > bizarre gear tooth curves is probably horrifying beyond belief.
> > Cranking out strange and horrifying aftermarket parts from an backyard
> > machine shop may be a sort of Gemanic equivalent of sticking it to
> > the man.
> You might like to take a look here
> http://www.wirthwein-motoren.de/index.php?function=cms_show&id=59- Hide quoted text -
> - Show quoted text -
Here is one that I have actually bought raceing parts from.
http://www.motoren-israel.com/
Posted by Rob Kleinschmidt on September 20, 2009, 12:45 pm
> > > > I see you've never owned a BMW. According to BMW NA, AG and all suppliers
> > > > Rob owns the finest motorcycle in the world and should happily put up with
> > > > any foibles without complaint. They said so in letters to customers. Nor,
> > > > being good Germans, are they going to help Rob thwart their established
> > > > supply system.
> > > > A friend went to Germany expecting to find an aftermarket similar to the H-D
> > > > aftermarket in the states. He found none because it was essentially illegal
> > > > to even change handlebars or brand/size of tires, let alone mufflers, etc.
> > > > They have the same reaction to motorcycle mod's as a devout Muslim has to
> > > > seeing his teen daughter in a bikini in public.
> > > Actually, there are some "sheddies" in Germany making some
> > > really nice aftermarket high tech stuff for the bike, but you're
> > > correct that they're working outside the established supply chain.
> > > If you're in the orthodox chain, the idea of somebody marketing a
> > > wierd top gear with one less tooth that mates with a stock gear by
> > > using
> > > bizarre gear tooth curves is probably horrifying beyond belief.
> > > Cranking out strange and horrifying aftermarket parts from an backyard
> > > machine shop may be a sort of Gemanic equivalent of sticking it to
> > > the man.
> > You might like to take a look here
> >http://www.wirthwein-motoren.de/index.php?function=cms_show&id=59-Hide quoted text -
> > - Show quoted text -
> Here is one that I have actually bought raceing parts from.
> http://www.motoren-israel.com/
Never dealt with motoren-israel though I've heard
of them. I have bought from Siebenrock and Motobins.
Lots of good stuff out there on the internet. With
Siebenrock, the computer translated correspondence
back and forth was pretty entertaining.
> aftermarket in the states. He found none because it was essentially illegal
> to even change handlebars or brand/size of tires, let alone mufflers, etc.