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Electrics Tiago Rocha 08-18-2008
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Posted by Tiago Rocha on August 18, 2008, 7:56 am


Update from what's up with my riding buddy Gabriel and his 90'
XLX350R.

On last episode, Gabriel geared up for the trail and his bike refused
to go after leaving his home. It was hard to (kick) start it, but it
started, failing and backfiring. He left his bike at my house and we
went riding without him.

We have a friend who owns a car junkyard. There, we can find
kilometers of wires and connectors, all models, types and colors.
Gabriel picked up a bag full of wires and went to my home, yesterday.
The mission was to replace all wiring and doing it properly.

His bike electric design feature a separated pulse coil, on the clutch
side, while at the magneto side we have four wires: white -> goes to
voltage regulator and headlight, black -> goes straight to CDI, pink
and yellow -> goes to regulator/rectifier. When we removed the magneto
engine cover, we found that the white wire was broken, touching the
carcass of the engine.

From 9am to 5pm we welded a *lot* of wires, replacing every single
wire on the bike, including the wire that comes from spark coil to
spark plug. We also fabricated a kill switch out of a air conditioning
"turbo" switch to replace the old corroded yam DT200 electric switches
on the handlebar. We did a very good looking job, with those plastic
tubes that are similar to what the manufacturer uses to group/isolate
the wires. Lots of hot melt glue too.

Lots of kicks after, and bike still refused to start. It had spark,
but it wasn't starting. Then, the carburetor started leaking through
the overflow hose. Ouch! Tapping the carburetor with the handle of a
screwdriver solved that, but bike still did not start.

I took a rope, tied on my bike and on his, and tried a hi-speed bump
start and it fired right up! With lots of power, without a single
hesitation! After that, it started second or third kick. The
carburetor "feels" dirty tho, idle was somewhat irregular, but this
bike (that has a carburetor from another bike model) never was a first
kick start bike...

anyway, I have only one thing to say: woooooohoooooo!!!!

that's soooooo good. Another riding buddy with a ready to ride
machine.

now, let's plan for a ride. Sunday? "well, I am a little tight on
money" said Gabriel, but let's wait until he rides his bike around
neighborhood for a week, then, ask again. Perhaps he has some greens
hidden under his sleeves :-) After all, all he needs is gasoline and
that is not too expensive... $15 USD is enough, I think...

-- Tiago


Posted by XR650L_Dave on August 18, 2008, 10:02 am


> Update from what's up with my riding buddy Gabriel and his 90'
> XLX350R.
>
> On last episode, Gabriel geared up for the trail and his bike refused
> to go after leaving his home. It was hard to (kick) start it, but it
> started, failing and backfiring. He left his bike at my house and we
> went riding without him.
>
> We have a friend who owns a car junkyard. There, we can find
> kilometers of wires and connectors, all models, types and colors.
> Gabriel picked up a bag full of wires and went to my home, yesterday.
> The mission was to replace all wiring and doing it properly.
>
> His bike electric design feature a separated pulse coil, on the clutch
> side, while at the magneto side we have four wires: white -> goes to
> voltage regulator and headlight, black -> goes straight to CDI, pink
> and yellow -> goes to regulator/rectifier. When we removed the magneto
> engine cover, we found that the white wire was broken, touching the
> carcass of the engine.
>
> From 9am to 5pm we welded a *lot* of wires, replacing every single
> wire on the bike, including the wire that comes from spark coil to
> spark plug. We also fabricated a kill switch out of a air conditioning
> "turbo" switch to replace the old corroded yam DT200 electric switches
> on the handlebar. We did a very good looking job, with those plastic
> tubes that are similar to what the manufacturer uses to group/isolate
> the wires. Lots of hot melt glue too.
>
> Lots of kicks after, and bike still refused to start. It had spark,
> but it wasn't starting. Then, the carburetor started leaking through
> the overflow hose. Ouch! Tapping the carburetor with the handle of a
> screwdriver solved that, but bike still did not start.
>
> I took a rope, tied on my bike and on his, and tried a hi-speed bump
> start and it fired right up! With lots of power, without a single
> hesitation! After that, it started second or third kick. The
> carburetor "feels" dirty tho, idle was somewhat irregular, but this
> bike (that has a carburetor from another bike model) never was a first
> kick start bike...
>
> anyway, I have only one thing to say: woooooohoooooo!!!!
>
> that's soooooo good. Another riding buddy with a ready to ride
> machine.
>
> now, let's plan for a ride. Sunday? "well, I am a little tight on
> money" said Gabriel, but let's wait until he rides his bike around
> neighborhood for a week, then, ask again. Perhaps he has some greens
> hidden under his sleeves :-) After all, all he needs is gasoline and
> that is not too expensive... $15 USD is enough, I think...
>
> -- Tiago


There's nothing like when your ride starts running right again.


Dave

Posted by PinkFloyd43 on August 22, 2008, 5:54 am


Tiago Rocha wrote:
> Update from what's up with my riding buddy Gabriel and his 90'
> XLX350R.
>
> On last episode, Gabriel geared up for the trail and his bike refused
> to go after leaving his home. It was hard to (kick) start it, but it
> started, failing and backfiring. He left his bike at my house and we
> went riding without him.
>
> We have a friend who owns a car junkyard. There, we can find
> kilometers of wires and connectors, all models, types and colors.
> Gabriel picked up a bag full of wires and went to my home, yesterday.
> The mission was to replace all wiring and doing it properly.
>
> His bike electric design feature a separated pulse coil, on the clutch
> side, while at the magneto side we have four wires: white -> goes to
> voltage regulator and headlight, black -> goes straight to CDI, pink
> and yellow -> goes to regulator/rectifier. When we removed the magneto
> engine cover, we found that the white wire was broken, touching the
> carcass of the engine.
>
> From 9am to 5pm we welded a *lot* of wires, replacing every single
> wire on the bike, including the wire that comes from spark coil to
> spark plug. We also fabricated a kill switch out of a air conditioning
> "turbo" switch to replace the old corroded yam DT200 electric switches
> on the handlebar. We did a very good looking job, with those plastic
> tubes that are similar to what the manufacturer uses to group/isolate
> the wires. Lots of hot melt glue too.
>
> Lots of kicks after, and bike still refused to start. It had spark,
> but it wasn't starting. Then, the carburetor started leaking through
> the overflow hose. Ouch! Tapping the carburetor with the handle of a
> screwdriver solved that, but bike still did not start.
>
> I took a rope, tied on my bike and on his, and tried a hi-speed bump
> start and it fired right up! With lots of power, without a single
> hesitation! After that, it started second or third kick. The
> carburetor "feels" dirty tho, idle was somewhat irregular, but this
> bike (that has a carburetor from another bike model) never was a first
> kick start bike...
>
> anyway, I have only one thing to say: woooooohoooooo!!!!
>
> that's soooooo good. Another riding buddy with a ready to ride
> machine.
>
> now, let's plan for a ride. Sunday? "well, I am a little tight on
> money" said Gabriel, but let's wait until he rides his bike around
> neighborhood for a week, then, ask again. Perhaps he has some greens
> hidden under his sleeves :-) After all, all he needs is gasoline and
> that is not too expensive... $15 USD is enough, I think...
>
> -- Tiago
>
Great job, When trying to fix crap around the house I am always looking
in a large junk boxes filled with old stuff and can usually find
something that I was going to throw out and use it! Makes you feel
good to fix something w/o going to a store, but it sounds like there
are not many stores around....great job!

Posted by Tiago Rocha on August 22, 2008, 8:18 am


PinkFloyd43 wrote:
> >
> Great job, When trying to fix crap around the house I am always looking
> in a large junk boxes filled with old stuff and can usually find
> something that I was going to throw out and use it! Makes you feel
> good to fix something w/o going to a store, but it sounds like there
> are not many stores around....great job!

thanks!

I rode his bike yesterday. Wow! With the new piston rings we put
before the electric job, bike is a blast to ride, lots of fun with
it's short wheelbase and 17in. rear wheel, it turns very fast! Not to
mention that it can run circles around my 250. What I said??!! We're
going to ride tomorrow!!!

There are many stores around, yes, and one can buy new, OEM wiring,
with all stock conectors and wires, but Gabriel ain't got the cash to
spend in something he can do himself. I'll take pictures, it is as
good looking as OEM and working great.

Winter season status of my bike, this is after tomorrow's ride:

-> 3 sets of frond pads
-> 4 sets of rear pads
-> 1 front sprocket
-> 1 rear sprocket
-> 1 chain
-> 1 set of rear wheel bearings
-> 2 linkage bearings
-> 1 oil filter
-> 3 liters of 15w50 engine oil (2 changes)
-> 1 set of grips
-> half liter of air filter oil
-> lots of bearing grease
-> 1 keyring (!!)

both tires are due replacing, but well, damn, I just bought a new-to-
me-used-car and don't have spare cash to put into tires right now and
not long ago someone posted an old spodefest picture of mr. Mark K.
and his husky with bald tires and after seeing he ride, if riding with
bald tires is what takes to ride like him, well, I guess it worth a
try! LOL!

-- Tiago

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