Posted by Dean H on February 3, 2010, 11:42 am
I'm afraid I may be having too much fun watching this Toyota debacle
unfold. I have always thought that fly by wire systems were a sketchy
proposition. Did they sub it out to Lucas?
Would you want a fly by wire throttle on your bike?
I guess it wouldn't be optional on an electric bike.
Seth flew by wire.
Posted by Tiago on February 3, 2010, 11:54 am
> I'm afraid I may be having too much fun watching this Toyota debacle
> unfold. I have always thought that fly by wire systems were a sketchy
> proposition. Did they sub it out to Lucas?
I don't think fbw are inherently bad. Ask any Airbus pilot. Problem is
when people start complaining that cars cost too much and factory
instead of using a part that costs 10 cents they start using one that
costs 6 cents and is of less quality.
btw, I drive a toyota... older model with cable throttle, stick shift
and no cruise control.
> Would you want a fly by wire throttle on your bike?
> I guess it wouldn't be optional on an electric bike.
fbw on a bike adds weight...
ymmv...
> Seth flew by wire.
he mastered that art of flying on two wheels. He only had to perfect
his landings!
-- T
Posted by HardWorkingDog on February 3, 2010, 11:58 am
In article
> Would you want a fly by wire throttle on your bike?
Many recent sport bikes are done exactly that way. I think the R1 was
the first, 2 or 3 years ago.
So, my answer is if that meant I had an R1, yes.
--
Charles
'99 YZ250
Posted by XR650L_Dave on February 3, 2010, 12:12 pm
> In article
> > Would you want a fly by wire throttle on your bike?
> Many recent sport bikes are done exactly that way. I think the R1 was
> the first, 2 or 3 years ago.
> So, my answer is if that meant I had an R1, yes.
> --
> Charles
> '99 YZ250
On a sportbike I'd like to have a real throttle as butterflies in the
throat, then any traction-control or smoothing etc could be done by a
computer driven slide or butterflies.
I'd give up the tiny bit extra power for the confidence that closing
the throttle is under my direct control.
I was wondering why it was tough for me to drive my wife's forester
('05) smoothly- then found out it has throttle-by-wire.
Dave
Posted by Dean H on February 3, 2010, 12:19 pm
> > Would you want a fly by wire throttle on your bike?
> Many recent sport bikes are done exactly that way. I think the R1 was
> the first, 2 or 3 years ago.
> So, my answer is if that meant I had an R1, yes.
> --
> Charles
> '99 YZ250
It is very cool technology that opens up many possibilities but also
opens up new problems. I suppose that once you get to EFI, you're most
of the way there anyway. And the elegance of FBW really shines when
you get to multi-cylinder engines.
In the case of this mysterious Toyota malfunction that was first the
mats, then certain gas pedals to be fixed with first a shim, then with
a reinforcing rod... there's reasonable speculation that they don't
know what they're really chasing. I suspect that with pedals sending
bad info now and then, they might be suffering one of computing's
oldest snafus; Garbage In - Garbage Out.
<something about fail-safe and fail-soft...>
Just making conversation... picturing Tami and Harrell patching
together the system with bobby pins and chewing gum.
> unfold. I have always thought that fly by wire systems were a sketchy
> proposition. Did they sub it out to Lucas?