Garage Project

 Early in the morning around 7:30 AM I was taking the garbage down and
accompanying my wife to the car as she left for work.  Over the
whining-grinding sound of the garage-door opener in action came a
deeper rumble-sliding thumping sound... Wahaa??
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v103/Spodeley/Dirtbike/Garage479_02.jpg
Nuts!

I have too much crap for my little garage.
DirtCrashr - '97KTM300M/XC

 
Wahaa??http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v103/Spodeley/Dirtbike/Garage479_02 ...

You can put the KTM in my garage.

DDave

 Nobody who likes motorcycles or any other hoby for that matter has
enough garage space. I figure a fella needs to start withabout 3000
square feet of space and go up from there. OF




Wahaa??http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v103/Spodeley/Dirtbike/Garage479_02 ...

 

Bummer. Sorry to hear about your wife's car. You'd have a lot more
room if she just rode a KTM 950 to work...you might be able to trade
that BMW straight up. Can she ride?

Want some unsolicited advice?
The shelves you have and are looking at are a problem because the
shelf load that you'd think should be just the straight downward pull
of gravity gets converted (partially) into a horizontal load trying to
pull the shelf straight out of the wall. The load limits of the
fasteners are pretty good for down, not so good for out. Your detail
photo of the shelf shows exactly that--the shelf pulled out
horizontally until it came out of the clips, then it was like Wile E.
Coyote who suddenly finds himself in midair above the grand canyon
with no visible means of support, and everything went GarageCrashring
straight down.

The steel supports you're looking at
http://www.knapeandvogt.com/Heavy_Duty_Standards_and_Brackets.html?page
=products.18.219 are stronger, but they still are limited by their
pull-out strength, which is how big and (how many) of a screw-bolt you
can put directly into the framing behind the wall.

The easiest way to get strong shelving is to provide a vertical
support at the front edge of the shelf that goes down to the floor. No
horizontal loads anymore, and now your only limit is the strength of
the shelf itself. Harder to fit a KTM under it though.

--
Charles
'99 YZ250

 
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 Thanks for the insight, Charles.  It makes me think.

  Instead of using verticle braces underneath a heavy wall shelf, I
usually try to save some of the space by using diagonal supports back
to the wall. (two triangle theory)
 Being the "rough framer" type of carpenter that I am <G>, I will
usually run a 2x4 horizontally on the wall to "support my supports",
or to attach them to.

  I built a shelf above Deb's desk to give her a place for the
scanner,  printer, and supplies.  Under the shelf, I used 1 1/8"
diagonal supports on each end.    I secured the abve mentioned 2x4 at
just above the desk and drilled 1 1/8" diagonal  holes in places on it
corresponding to the supports.
 The shelf is supporting at least 60 lbs.