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Posted by kxdude4 on June 21, 2008, 12:03 am
Hi Tami!
Thanks for the response to my last post! I responded a day later or
so, so I'm afraid it wasn't read. You had a ton of good info! I'm
gonna copy and paste what I wrote below but before that, are Aprilia's
very temperamental - like owning a Ferrari or Jag? Or LandRover, for
that matter? I analogized it with a Maico back in the day, in my last
response... I'm totally anal about upkeep and ride VERY wimp-like
now-a-days... I just don't want a poorly engineered bike. Quality
high-performance is great! High Perf. at all costs is a headache. How
would you characterize it? Also, you eluded to the Husq 610... does
that come street legal and in Supermoto form?
THANKS for taking the time to write!
Much appreciation!
Scott
WOW, Woodschick! ((Tam(m)i is my sis-in-law so I gotta go by your RMD
moniker!)). Talkin' about a ton of info in one post! THANKS!!!
I gotta tell ya... my superficial side won't allow me to get a DRZ. I
know a Suzi would be dependable and I coulda done that years ago! In
fact, I could go used and get an XR or XL! I do want a bit of "bling"
as the kids say... I'm going to ride this locally to grab a 6er or a
cup-o-joe so I don't mind a little more maintenance... I LOVE Huskys
'cause I'm an old school, late-40-something kid and always wanted a
Husky MXer when I was a kid. And I got the KTM info from the mags
that seem to favor the EXC's.
May I ask, in your opinion would the Aprilia be a complete dog? Like
a Maico Breako back in the day even if I just putt-putt around the
town? I don't want a pain in the neck even if I do a great job with
up-keep. I'm 6' 1" and 255 well earned LBs :-). People keep
suggesting the TE250. AARRGGHHHH!!!! What to choose!
I was leaning toward the Katoom 'cause of the mags. I Love the look
of the Aprilia and it makes me smile. I've always dug Huskys... As
an old fart (not THE old fart here) am I really looking at a multitude
of future headaches with the Aprilia?
Thanks again for all the input!
Take care!!!
Scott
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Posted by WoodsChick on June 23, 2008, 6:49 pm
> Hi Tami!
Hi!
>
> Thanks for the response to my last post! =A0
My pleasure.
> I responded a day later or
> so, so I'm afraid it wasn't read. =A0
Nah, I've just been busy reading about self-destructing Aprilias on
the SM forums.
> You had a ton of good info! =A0I'm
> gonna copy and paste what I wrote below but before that, are Aprilia's
> very temperamental - like owning a Ferrari or Jag? =A0Or LandRover, for
> that matter? =A0
I don't know if they're tempermental, since I've never owned one. I
would guess that they are, since they are a very high-strung race
bike.
> I analogized it with a Maico back in the day, in my last
> response... =A0 I'm totally anal about upkeep and ride VERY wimp-like
> now-a-days... =A0
If you ride very wimp-like, why do you want an Aprilia? Don't waste
your money on technology that you aren't going to use. Remember, it's
a lot more fun to ride a slow bike fast than it is to ride a fast bike
slow. I'd feel like a total poser putting around on one of those.
Hell, I already feel kinda like a poser on my 610 since there's about
1/4" of tire edge that isn't getting used...yet.
> I just don't want a poorly engineered bike. =A0
I wouldn't say the Aprilia is poorly engineered, per se. Aprilia did a
great job of engineering it for what it was meant to do: go very fast
for a short period of time.
I do believe the term used most often in reference to the product of
this particular brand of engineering is "grenade."
> Quality high-performance is great! =A0High Perf. at all costs is a headac=
he. How
> would you characterize it?
See above <G>=A0
> Also, you eluded to the Husq 610... does
> that come street legal and in Supermoto form?
Yes and yes. The Husky TE610 has the 21" and 18" wheels and is street
legal.
The SM610, which is what I have, has 17" wheels with a monster front
brake and is street legal. If you want to do any serious dirt riding
on it, I'd suggest the TE. I did a dualsport ride on Pirelli MT60's
that was a lot of fun, but the tires did limit me in some instances.
Also, the suspension is set up for very aggressive street riding
straight from the factory, since that's what they're made for, so take
that into account when you finally decide to plunk your money down on
a full-on supermoto bike.
>
> THANKS for taking the time to write!
No problem. Sorry it took so long.
>
> Much appreciation!
>
> Scott
>
> WOW, Woodschick! =A0((Tam(m)i is my sis-in-law so I gotta go by your RMD
> moniker!)). =A0Talkin' about a ton of info in one post! =A0THANKS!!! =A0
>
> I gotta tell ya... my superficial side won't allow me to get a DRZ. =A0I
> know a Suzi would be dependable and I coulda done that years ago! =A0
I know what you mean about not getting the DRZ<G> I had my choice of a
Ducati S2R or the Suzuki SV650, and after test-riding both of them
back to back I went with the Suzuki because it wasn't $2500 better
than the Ducati for what I wanted it to do (get me to work and
back...with the occasional dualsport ride thrown in.) It *looked*
$2500 better, and it *sounded* $2500 better, but in the end that $2500
would have been wasted. I wanted that Ducati so bad I could taste it,
but it was only because it was sexier. I'm perfectly happy with the
Suzuki. When it came time to purchase a supermoto bike, though, the
Husky really was better. In order to get a DRZ to weigh the same and
perform the same as the Husky, I would have had to spend way more than
the Husky cost out the door...and it would still be a DRZ. No thanks.
> In
> fact, I could go used and get an XR or XL! =A0
They aren't supermoto bikes, though.
> I do want a bit of "bling"
> as the kids say... =A0
Can't blame you there. I get a lot of joy out of simply looking at my
Husky. There's something to be said for that.
> I'm going to ride this locally to grab a 6er or a
> cup-o-joe so I don't mind a little more maintenance... =A0
If installing new motors comes under the heading of maintenance, then
you won't have a problem maintaining the Aprilia.
Maintenance is not an issue on the Husky 610. My KTM 450 is more
maintenance-intensive, as far as valve adjustment and oil change
intervals go. I can't speak to the reliability of my particular bike,
as I have less than 2000 miles on it but, again, all those owners out
there can't be wrong.
> I LOVE Huskys
> 'cause I'm an old school, late-40-something kid and always wanted a
> Husky MXer when I was a kid. =A0
I'm really glad the brand is going strong again. I've heard a few
rumblings concerning weird attitudes coming from the Germans (BMW has
taken Husky over from MV Agusta, yet they are still built in Italy)
regarding parts availability, but hopefully that is a blip on the
radar that can be chalked up to transition woes.
> And I got the KTM info from the mags
> that seem to favor the EXC's.
EXC's aren't supermoto bikes, they're street-legal dirtbikes, and most
of the magazines seem to have conveniently forgotten that Husky beat
them to the punch in that regard.
>
> May I ask, in your opinion would the Aprilia be a complete dog? =A0
A dog?? The thing will run like a bat outta hell and it puts out an
enormous amount of arm-stretching power. No, I wouldn't call it a
dog.
> Like
> a Maico Breako back in the day even if I just putt-putt around the
> town? =A0
I'm sorry, but there is something inherently wrong with buying an
Aprilia SXV and then putt-putting around town on it. I will ridicule
you and call you a poser...
all the while secretly wanting to borrow it from you <G>
> I don't want a pain in the neck even if I do a great job with
> up-keep. =A0I'm 6' 1" and 255 well earned LBs :-). =A0People keep
> suggesting the TE250. =A0AARRGGHHHH!!!! =A0What to choose!
If you want a supermoto with street wheels, a TE will do you no good.
Are you sure you want a supermoto and not a street-legal dirtbike?
>
> I was leaning toward the Katoom 'cause of the mags. =A0
Did you read a lot of reviews of KTM's supermoto bikes? Any shoot-outs
between similar supermotos? Any reviews in magazines without a lot of
full-page KTM ads?
Get away from the mags and start doing a bit of on-line research. Get
comfy and go to the manufacturers forum on www.supermotojunkie.com.
There is a huge amount of info from real-world owners like you and me
on the Aprilias, KTMs and Huskies. Of particular interest to you are
the 2 threads in the Aprilia forum titled
"Do not buy an Aprilia" and "Anyone fully happy with SXV?" ThumperTalk
has a supermoto forum, and I think KTMTalk does, too, although I think
it's best to stay away from manufacturer-specific boards when trying
to get unbiased information on other brands. Hell, go to www.bayarearidersf=
orum.com
and check out their supermoto forum. There's a guy on there right now
that's ready to drop a few grand on a crated motor because Aprilia
would only cover the first 2. He loves the bike when it's running,
though...
> I Love the look
> of the Aprilia and it makes me smile. =A0
Well, there's certainly something to be said for that. How do you put
a price on something that makes you giggle like a school girl? I
certainly get my money's worth in that department. However, the real
joy is in the riding. The Husky is so much better than I thought it
would be.
> I've always dug Huskys... =A0 As
> an old fart (not THE old fart here) am I really looking at a multitude
> of future headaches with the Aprilia?
Well, I think you know where I stand on that issue by now <G>
Remember, any Euro bike kind of falls into the 90% category. There are
4 Japanese bikes, 2 Spanish bikes, 2 Austrian bikes, and 1 Italian
bike in my garage so I kind of have some experience in this regard.
You will probably never buy a brand new Japanese bike and then have to
purchase a bigger o-ring to get the oil filler cap to stop leaking.
You probably won't have an issue with your front wheel not lining up
between your front forks with a brand new Japanese bike. You'll never
have to hire a private eye to track down an owners manual for your
Japanese bike and then not be able to read it because it only comes in
Japanese. However, the 10% that the Euro bikes lack is more than made
up for in immeasureable intangibles. A DRZ is Safeway-brand dried
spaghetti with Ragu sauce and Kraft parmesan cheese out of the green
can. My Husky is fresh fettuccini carbonara made with real Italian
proscuitto, fresh peas and freshly grated reggiano and parmesan.
>
> Thanks again for all the input!
My pleasure. I love it when someone asks me for my opinion because I
always have one at the ready, no matter what the subject <G>
>
> Take care!!!
Mmm...ok.
> Scott
Tami-
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Posted by sturd on June 23, 2008, 7:17 pm
WoodsChick says:
> I don't know if they're tempermental, since I've never owned one.
Warning! Tami has a live in mechanic so don't take too much
of what she says about reliability as reliable.
> Remember, it's
> a lot more fun to ride a slow bike fast than it is to ride a fast bike
> slow.
That, on the other hand, is good advice.
Tami, whatdya know about 650 Vstoms? Not an SV but might
be good enough for an old fart that doesn't commute to go to
the local flat track to spectate, no? I think I could get bags big
enough for a couple six packs.
Go fast. Take chances.
Mike S.
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Posted by WoodsChick on June 23, 2008, 9:18 pm
> WoodsChick says:
>
> > I don't know if they're tempermental, since I've never owned one.
>
> Warning! =A0Tami has a live in mechanic so don't take too much
> of what she says about reliability as reliable.
Hey, it doesn't matter who does the wrenching. If my bike's broke,
it's broke and I can't ride it. If Eric isn't in the garage fixing my
crap (with parts I have to pay for) he's in the house with me, and
that makes me very happy. So there...pffft!
>
> > Remember, it's
> > a lot more fun to ride a slow bike fast than it is to ride a fast bike
> > slow.
>
> That, on the other hand, is good advice.
Damn straight.
>
> Tami, whatdya know about 650 Vstoms? =A0Not an SV but might
> be good enough for an old fart that doesn't commute to go to
> the local flat track to spectate, no? =A0I think I could get bags big
> enough for a couple six packs.
All I know about V-Stroms is they have the same motors as the SVs, yet
they are big and wide and heeaaaavy. I thought about getting the V-
Strom til I went to sit on one at the dealer. I figured if I was going
to go for the Suzuki V-twin motor, I'd get the lightest most
comfortable package I could get...and that was the naked SV650. I was
intrigued by the SV1000, but they only made the naked model in
`03...and the silver model was a vision of loveliness. I wanted to get
it so Eric would ride it and enjoy it and want to ride with me on the
street again, but he nixed that idea. I'm glad I went with the 650. It
splits lanes like nobody's business, and well...what I said before
about slow bikes and fast bikes.
You can't go wrong with Suzuki's V-twin motors. They got it right. I
have over 16k on my SV and the valves haven't moved a hair. If I had a
longer commute (and legs...) and didn't have to contend with lane-
splitting on the Bay Bridge, I might have gone for the V-Strom,
though. Lotsa cool aftermarket crash bars and stuff that you can't get
for the SV.
> Go fast. Take chances.
> Mike S.
Tami-
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Posted by HardWorkingDog on June 23, 2008, 8:16 pm
In article
> My Husky is fresh fettuccini carbonara made with real Italian
> proscuitto, fresh peas and freshly grated reggiano and parmesan.
Did they include a little salmonella at no additional charge???
<D&R>
--
Charles
'99 YZ250
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