Posted by kxdude4 on November 3, 2010, 12:07 am
Hey, Guys!
I have a KX250 and too often I get the feeling it wants to kick me
over the bars, so when I read this I was surprised - shouldn't he have
said just the opposite?
RC: "In 2000, the Kawasake always seemed like it was kicking me over
the handlebars, so I know I had to change it. In order to compensate
for that, I rode with the back really low. I felt that I could
control the bike that much better with a ton of REBOUND.
Theoretically, there should have been no way I should have been able
to ride it, butI liked it".
Now, wouldn't a "ton of rebound" do just the opposite? More rebound
would throw him over the bars even more, no?
Let's say 12 clicks on both compression and rebound were suggested by
the manual (starting point). If there were a problem with the rear
end kicking up, what would you do, click wise? In or out on the
compression? In or out on the rebound?
Thanks guys (and gals!!! :-) )
Scott
Posted by Wudsracer on November 6, 2010, 1:43 am
If my bike's back end was kicking/deflecting too much on roots, rocks,
and braking bumps (the things which I ride over which might cause
that) , I would back off the compression two clicks at a time, until
the wheel does the kicking instead of the whole back end of the bike.
The rebound, I always run as far out ( as many clicks out) as I can,
until the back end starts wallowing (packing and responding
sluggishly) due to the terrain and speeds that I am making. Then, I
turn the rebound clicker in two clicks at a time until it acts
properly.
But, I could not tell from your post if Carmichael was saying that he
ran tons of rebound damping, or if he liked an almost total lack of
rebound damping. To me, it read as if a word (damping) was omitted
from his statement. Otherwise, it would seem more natural if he had
said something like,"I felt that I could control the bike that much
better with very little Rebound damping."
(Hey, what do I know?)
Jim
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>Hey, Guys!
>I have a KX250 and too often I get the feeling it wants to kick me
>over the bars, so when I read this I was surprised - shouldn't he have
>said just the opposite?
>RC: "In 2000, the Kawasake always seemed like it was kicking me over
>the handlebars, so I know I had to change it. In order to compensate
>for that, I rode with the back really low. I felt that I could
>control the bike that much better with a ton of REBOUND.
>Theoretically, there should have been no way I should have been able
>to ride it, butI liked it".
>Now, wouldn't a "ton of rebound" do just the opposite? More rebound
>would throw him over the bars even more, no?
>Let's say 12 clicks on both compression and rebound were suggested by
>the manual (starting point). If there were a problem with the rear
>end kicking up, what would you do, click wise? In or out on the
>compression? In or out on the rebound?
>Thanks guys (and gals!!! :-) )
>Scott
Posted by kxdude4 on November 20, 2010, 2:43 pm
wrote:
>If my bike's back end was kicking/deflecting too much on roots, rocks,
>and braking bumps (the things which I ride over which might cause
>that) , I would back off the compression two clicks at a time, until
>the wheel does the kicking instead of the whole back end of the bike.
>The rebound, I always run as far out ( as many clicks out) as I can,
>until the back end starts wallowing (packing and responding
>sluggishly) due to the terrain and speeds that I am making. Then, I
>turn the rebound clicker in two clicks at a time until it acts
>properly.
>But, I could not tell from your post if Carmichael was saying that he
>ran tons of rebound damping, or if he liked an almost total lack of
>rebound damping. To me, it read as if a word (damping) was omitted
>from his statement. Otherwise, it would seem more natural if he had
>said something like,"I felt that I could control the bike that much
>better with very little Rebound damping."
>(Hey, what do I know?)
>Jim
>---------------------------------------------------------------
>>Hey, Guys!
>>
>>I have a KX250 and too often I get the feeling it wants to kick me
>>over the bars, so when I read this I was surprised - shouldn't he have
>>said just the opposite?
>>
>>RC: "In 2000, the Kawasake always seemed like it was kicking me over
>>the handlebars, so I know I had to change it. In order to compensate
>>for that, I rode with the back really low. I felt that I could
>>control the bike that much better with a ton of REBOUND.
>>Theoretically, there should have been no way I should have been able
>>to ride it, butI liked it".
>>
>>Now, wouldn't a "ton of rebound" do just the opposite? More rebound
>>would throw him over the bars even more, no?
>>
>>Let's say 12 clicks on both compression and rebound were suggested by
>>the manual (starting point). If there were a problem with the rear
>>end kicking up, what would you do, click wise? In or out on the
>>compression? In or out on the rebound?
>>
>>Thanks guys (and gals!!! :-) )
>>
>>Scott
Posted by I am Tosk on November 20, 2010, 4:16 pm
says...
>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >If my bike's back end was kicking/deflecting too much on roots, rocks,
> >and braking bumps (the things which I ride over which might cause
> >that) , I would back off the compression two clicks at a time, until
> >the wheel does the kicking instead of the whole back end of the bike.
> >
> >The rebound, I always run as far out ( as many clicks out) as I can,
> >until the back end starts wallowing (packing and responding
> >sluggishly) due to the terrain and speeds that I am making. Then, I
> >turn the rebound clicker in two clicks at a time until it acts
> >properly.
> >
> >But, I could not tell from your post if Carmichael was saying that he
> >ran tons of rebound damping, or if he liked an almost total lack of
> >rebound damping. To me, it read as if a word (damping) was omitted
> >from his statement. Otherwise, it would seem more natural if he had
> >said something like,"I felt that I could control the bike that much
> >better with very little Rebound damping."
> >(Hey, what do I know?)
> >
> >Jim
> >
> >---------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >>Hey, Guys!
> >>
> >>I have a KX250 and too often I get the feeling it wants to kick me
> >>over the bars, so when I read this I was surprised - shouldn't he have
> >>said just the opposite?
> >>
> >>RC: "In 2000, the Kawasake always seemed like it was kicking me over
> >>the handlebars, so I know I had to change it. In order to compensate
> >>for that, I rode with the back really low. I felt that I could
> >>control the bike that much better with a ton of REBOUND.
> >>Theoretically, there should have been no way I should have been able
> >>to ride it, butI liked it".
> >>
> >>Now, wouldn't a "ton of rebound" do just the opposite? More rebound
> >>would throw him over the bars even more, no?
> >>
> >>Let's say 12 clicks on both compression and rebound were suggested by
> >>the manual (starting point). If there were a problem with the rear
> >>end kicking up, what would you do, click wise? In or out on the
> >>compression? In or out on the rebound?
> >>
> >>Thanks guys (and gals!!! :-) )
> >>
> >>Scott
I am confused but I know when my back end was kicking up Tony and Scott
told me to stiffen up my rebound. I did it by two clicks, and it worked
great...
--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - Pain is temporary, Glory is forever!
>I have a KX250 and too often I get the feeling it wants to kick me
>over the bars, so when I read this I was surprised - shouldn't he have
>said just the opposite?
>RC: "In 2000, the Kawasake always seemed like it was kicking me over
>the handlebars, so I know I had to change it. In order to compensate
>for that, I rode with the back really low. I felt that I could
>control the bike that much better with a ton of REBOUND.
>Theoretically, there should have been no way I should have been able
>to ride it, butI liked it".
>Now, wouldn't a "ton of rebound" do just the opposite? More rebound
>would throw him over the bars even more, no?
>Let's say 12 clicks on both compression and rebound were suggested by
>the manual (starting point). If there were a problem with the rear
>end kicking up, what would you do, click wise? In or out on the
>compression? In or out on the rebound?
>Thanks guys (and gals!!! :-) )
>Scott