Posted by JayC on December 26, 2007, 1:27 pm
> I'm fairly competent skiing bumpshttp://youtube.com/watch?v=7cfeNF8rcas
> I used to ski them on 210cm GS skis a few years back.
> Now I swear by the shorter wider skis. I use Rossignol Scratch as an all
> around ski.
Thanks for the inputs - your bump skills look similar to mine,
although your endurance is obviously better (unless you collapsed
gasping for breath right after the camera turned off, like I would've
done :). I'm dedicating this season, however, to perfecting the
"World Cup" bump method and at least doubling my speed, especially on
the really steep stuff, unless I get killed first. I was also a long-
ski fan back in the day... I skied ultra stiff slalom skis (K2 KVC) in
203s for years. Perfect for my 5'9" 210# gelatinous body, if you ask
me.
After spending a pile of years on a snowboard, I am in the process of
ditching that hoodlum sport permanently, and getting back to my 2-
planker bump-bashing roots. I tried my first pair of shaped skis two
seasons ago. They were an intermediate-level ski that I got new (for
cheap) at a ski swap. I really liked the bigger sidecut, but didn't
like the length (170). I also blew them apart toward the end of their
first season - they delaminated spectacularly. I picked up a pair of
Atomic Ride 9.22s in a 190 for this year (roughly 2000 vintage) as an
experiment. They are wide and do well in powder, although that isn't
much of a consideration - I can count the number of powder days over
the past 5 years on one hand. The Atomics are a GS ski (22m radius),
but I've found that I still like a short radius turner (even though a
wider GS ski is a better pure bump ski). I also still like the 190s
length, but will probably go down in length a little bit. I can turn
the 190s in the bumps fine, but I've found that I am simply getting
lazy in my old age. I don't want to go as short as my old skis
though. I noticed on Atomic's web site that the longest ski they make
this year is a 185. Personally, I think the short skis are a fad and
they are going to start getting longer again. OK, they all say that a
new 165 can hold a turn like an old 190. Fine, but if I can turn a
190, shouldn't it have all the benefits of skiing an old 230? Why
give that up?
JayC
Posted by CrashTestDummy on December 26, 2007, 3:42 pm
wrote:
>I'm the meantime, I'm shopping for new skis, so if anybody knows
>anything about all of this newfangled skiing equipment (the stuff sure
>has changed in the last 15 years), let me know. One thing we DON'T
>have around here is a decent ski shop. I want a long (by todays
>standards - 180 to 190cm) quick-turning ski. Mid-soft shovel, mid-
>stiff midsection, stiff tail (aggressive mogul flex pattern, slalom
>sidecut).
Jay, take a look at the Dynastar Legend Mythic Rider. It's
supposedly excellent in moguls and ice, but offers more versatility
than your typical mogul(only) ski. Sidecuts are: 122-88-110. You can
get 'em in 184 or 189cm. The online reviews, even from bump skiers,
are awesome. Here's one such review:
http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?tc926
Only four left, but $648 here:
http://www.nordas.com/item.asp?prodidC563
But if you just gotta have that dedicated mogul ski, one of the
best seems to be the Dynastar Twister (direct descendant of the
legendary Assault Superior). You can get the Twister in lengths up to
190cm. 86-61-76. Twister run about $500.
If you can find previous year's models at a discount, the Head
Madtrix Mogul was pretty good. 90-61-81 and only available in 181cm.
And the aforementioned Dynastar Assault Superior was an awesome ski.
LevelNineSports has some 181cm 2005 Madtrix Moguls at a very
reasonable price (under $200) here:
http://www.levelninesports.com/head-2005-mad-trix-mogul-skis-181cm-p-2372.html
I don't have any personal experience with any of these skis though.
My last pair of skis were K2s in the early '90s, so I've been out of
the loop a while. Good luck!
Fred Bradford - CrashTestDummy
fjbradfordREMOVE@tx.rr.com
Posted by Craig on December 27, 2007, 9:53 am
> I don't have any personal experience with any of these skis though.
> My last pair of skis were K2s in the early '90s, so I've been out of
> the loop a while. Good luck!
I still ski on my K2s that I bought in 1989 (they were a non-current
model when I bought 'em). A couple of years ago I finally had to
accept that they look like dorky old man skis compared to current
stuff. A cow-orker of mine who is an avid skier insists that I need to
upgrade, but I figure if they were good enough for me then, they're
good enough for me now. For the past five years or so I've only skied
once a year anyway which is hardly enough to justify new equipment.
Craig
Posted by JayC on December 28, 2007, 2:22 pm
>http://www.elf.cz/images/im-2006-06-04/521884011fde22b13e008ebd2c70cb ...
> So, this explains why you bought a 4S Honda, you're into "high
> maintenance". <VBG>
I'm willing to make the sacrifice.
JayC
Posted by CrashTestDummy on December 26, 2007, 6:21 pm
On 26 Dec 2007 16:42:47 GMT, miko@sammy.local (Miko the pooch) wrote:
>> I want a long (by todays standards - 180 to 190cm) quick-turning ski.
>> Mid-soft shovel, mid-stiff midsection, stiff tail (aggressive mogul
>> flex pattern, slalom sidecut).
>I'm fairly competent skiing bumps http://youtube.com/watch?v=7cfeNF8rcas
Those moguls are to die for! It's looks like you have a nice base
with a ton of semi-soft stuff on top there, huh? I haven't seen bumps
that nice since Anthony Lakes in high school. The other places (Sun
Valley... Mt. Hood...) had too much traffic for that sort of stuff to
last long unless you got there during or immediately following a
recent dump. And even then it's often wet (at Mt. Hood). Of course the
snow in your video looks like it might be a tad wet also?
Most of the time the moguls I skied were packed with little or
nothing on top, and often ice (especially in Sun Valley when we went
during a freezing rain). I can ski bumps nearly as good as you when
there's a little soft stuff on top, and I can ski them okay when
there's not. I can't do the steep, fall line ice moguls well at all
though. Oh I still try... I just don't keep a tight vertical line.
Anyway, nice video clip, Bruno. Where was that at, btw?
Fred Bradford - CrashTestDummy
fjbradfordREMOVE@tx.rr.com
> I used to ski them on 210cm GS skis a few years back.
> Now I swear by the shorter wider skis. I use Rossignol Scratch as an all
> around ski.