Posted by spike on March 13, 2005, 2:00 pm
flymx wrote:
> >
> > Mike Baxter wrote:
> >> During the little riding I did Sunday, I had a good time jumping
the
> >> top of this one hill. It's not big air at all. I would have to
> > guess
> >> maybe 3 or 4 ft of air. What happens is that you approach the
hill
> > in
> >> 3rd or 4th gear. I prefer 4th so that I can hold the speed with
out
> >> the rear wheel driving too hard. At the top off the hill are some
> >> rocks that act as a lip. All you have to do is carry enough speed
to
> >> clear the top of the hill and preload the bike just before hitting
> > the
> >> lip. It helps to try to whip the bike a little as the track angles
> >> about 30 degrees right, going down the hill toward the next turn.
I
> >> would guess you cover only 15 feet in distance to make it smooth.
> >> It's a typical off-road style jump. I would rather jump over
stuff
> >> than ride through it if it's safe and/or smoother.
> >>
> >> Mike Baxter
> >
> > First ever MX race last year there was a nice long 4th gear up hill
> > that had a big rounded top where you go about 1' off the ground for
> > about 20-30' from carrying so much speed. Looked like it would be
fun
> > for a pussy like me and it was on the practice lap. I guess the
race
> > adrenaline kicked in and I kept it pinned over the top and when the
> > back wheel landed, the front came straight up and I almost looped
out.
> > 2nd lap I was dog slow and only carried about 5'. 3rd lap was a
little
> > better and for the 4th and final I was able to stay on the gas by
stay
> > forward and that was fun.
> >
> > 2nd moto the lines changed a bit and a tiny little kicker formed at
the
> > top which made me land on the front wheel each time, one of which
> > almost put me over the bars. Best of all the jump is at the finish
line
> > where everyone could see what a spode I was. All I kept thinking
was
> > how can such a simple jump be so difficult.
> Dave.. next time you find a "kicker" like that... try giving more
power just
> as your front wheel hits it and carry threw till your back wheel has
hit and
> passed it , this will keep your front end up , what you will be doing
is ,
> you are counter measuring the exagerated kick the rear wheel receives
> because the front wheel is off the ramp and is no longer supported ,
the
> extra power keeps the front wheel lifted.
> You can do this on anything that may kick your back wheel up and/or
leverage
> your front end down , this is also a good reason to ride in the power
band
> so when you need that heavy hit of power , it is there.
I was just watching a DVD I bought the kids (being snowed-in is killing
me) called PW2PRO and to my surprise the jump I was referring to is in
the last scene (filmed a couple years earlier). Pretty cool. Dave
Jackson didn't seem to have any trouble with it and he's only got one
arm ;-) We were pitted next to Dave and he's quite an inspiration. I
think he has an auto-clutch now but at that time he somehow managed to
deal with throttle, clutch and brake all on the right side.
I have fond memories of the first turn too where they show a bunch of
crashes. Somehow I ended up with my leg stuck between another riders
fender and rear wheel while laying on the ground and the goof couldn't
figure out why he couldn't get his bike going. Turned out to be a
terrible race for me (25 out of 27 i think) but loads of fun. I entered
250 beginner instead of 40+ but won't be doing that again.
>
>
> >
> > DaveB
> >
Posted by flymx on March 13, 2005, 3:25 pm
> flymx wrote:
>> >
>> > Mike Baxter wrote:
>> >> During the little riding I did Sunday, I had a good time jumping
> the
>> >> top of this one hill. It's not big air at all. I would have to
>> > guess
>> >> maybe 3 or 4 ft of air. What happens is that you approach the
> hill
>> > in
>> >> 3rd or 4th gear. I prefer 4th so that I can hold the speed with
> out
>> >> the rear wheel driving too hard. At the top off the hill are some
>> >> rocks that act as a lip. All you have to do is carry enough speed
> to
>> >> clear the top of the hill and preload the bike just before hitting
>> > the
>> >> lip. It helps to try to whip the bike a little as the track angles
>> >> about 30 degrees right, going down the hill toward the next turn.
> I
>> >> would guess you cover only 15 feet in distance to make it smooth.
>> >> It's a typical off-road style jump. I would rather jump over
> stuff
>> >> than ride through it if it's safe and/or smoother.
>> >>
>> >> Mike Baxter
>> >
>> > First ever MX race last year there was a nice long 4th gear up hill
>> > that had a big rounded top where you go about 1' off the ground for
>> > about 20-30' from carrying so much speed. Looked like it would be
> fun
>> > for a pussy like me and it was on the practice lap. I guess the
> race
>> > adrenaline kicked in and I kept it pinned over the top and when the
>> > back wheel landed, the front came straight up and I almost looped
> out.
>> > 2nd lap I was dog slow and only carried about 5'. 3rd lap was a
> little
>> > better and for the 4th and final I was able to stay on the gas by
> stay
>> > forward and that was fun.
>> >
>> > 2nd moto the lines changed a bit and a tiny little kicker formed at
> the
>> > top which made me land on the front wheel each time, one of which
>> > almost put me over the bars. Best of all the jump is at the finish
> line
>> > where everyone could see what a spode I was. All I kept thinking
> was
>> > how can such a simple jump be so difficult.
>>
>> Dave.. next time you find a "kicker" like that... try giving more
> power just
>> as your front wheel hits it and carry threw till your back wheel has
> hit and
>> passed it , this will keep your front end up , what you will be doing
> is ,
>> you are counter measuring the exagerated kick the rear wheel receives
>> because the front wheel is off the ramp and is no longer supported ,
> the
>> extra power keeps the front wheel lifted.
>> You can do this on anything that may kick your back wheel up and/or
> leverage
>> your front end down , this is also a good reason to ride in the power
> band
>> so when you need that heavy hit of power , it is there.
> I was just watching a DVD I bought the kids (being snowed-in is killing
> me) called PW2PRO and to my surprise the jump I was referring to is in
> the last scene (filmed a couple years earlier). Pretty cool. Dave
> Jackson didn't seem to have any trouble with it and he's only got one
> arm ;-) We were pitted next to Dave and he's quite an inspiration. I
> think he has an auto-clutch now but at that time he somehow managed to
> deal with throttle, clutch and brake all on the right side.
When someone says " I can't" .. they should be shown a pic of this guy who
was probably told "you can't" ..
Someones limitations I would guess 9 times out of ten is their own doubt.
> I have fond memories of the first turn too where they show a bunch of
> crashes. Somehow I ended up with my leg stuck between another riders
> fender and rear wheel while laying on the ground and the goof couldn't
> figure out why he couldn't get his bike going.
There was a guy on here years ago talking about a similar situation,, he
lost a whole lot of muscle because the throttle was stuck on full and the
tire chewed his leg apart .. now thats ugly ..
Turned out to be a
> terrible race for me (25 out of 27 i think) but loads of fun. I entered
> 250 beginner instead of 40+ but won't be doing that again.
Beginners are either scared .. or stupid.. either one is dangerous to other
riders.. I got nailed pretty good when I first started to race.. a novice
drove right into me while I was stuck in the mud [ he had the WHOLE track to
go around ].
He broke both my ankle and leg .. oh well... shit happens..
Everything is a learning experience if you want it to be.. mine was
practice harder to get good enough to not have to ride with those bastards..
Local club experts can be exactly the same.. all to get that 5 dollar trophy
.. maybe there should be a trophy for not knocking people as the only way
to win a race...
I'm just sayin.. thats all .
>>
>>
>> >
>> > DaveB
>> >
>
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> > Mike Baxter wrote:
> >> During the little riding I did Sunday, I had a good time jumping
the
> >> top of this one hill. It's not big air at all. I would have to
> > guess
> >> maybe 3 or 4 ft of air. What happens is that you approach the
hill
> > in
> >> 3rd or 4th gear. I prefer 4th so that I can hold the speed with
out
> >> the rear wheel driving too hard. At the top off the hill are some
> >> rocks that act as a lip. All you have to do is carry enough speed
to
> >> clear the top of the hill and preload the bike just before hitting
> > the
> >> lip. It helps to try to whip the bike a little as the track angles
> >> about 30 degrees right, going down the hill toward the next turn.
I
> >> would guess you cover only 15 feet in distance to make it smooth.
> >> It's a typical off-road style jump. I would rather jump over
stuff
> >> than ride through it if it's safe and/or smoother.
> >>
> >> Mike Baxter
> >
> > First ever MX race last year there was a nice long 4th gear up hill
> > that had a big rounded top where you go about 1' off the ground for
> > about 20-30' from carrying so much speed. Looked like it would be
fun
> > for a pussy like me and it was on the practice lap. I guess the
race
> > adrenaline kicked in and I kept it pinned over the top and when the
> > back wheel landed, the front came straight up and I almost looped
out.
> > 2nd lap I was dog slow and only carried about 5'. 3rd lap was a
little
> > better and for the 4th and final I was able to stay on the gas by
stay
> > forward and that was fun.
> >
> > 2nd moto the lines changed a bit and a tiny little kicker formed at
the
> > top which made me land on the front wheel each time, one of which
> > almost put me over the bars. Best of all the jump is at the finish
line
> > where everyone could see what a spode I was. All I kept thinking
was
> > how can such a simple jump be so difficult.
> Dave.. next time you find a "kicker" like that... try giving more