Posted by HardWorkingDog on February 10, 2010, 11:44 am
Continuing the saga of the '99 YZ winter rebuild...
I sent the radiators off to Myler's radiator repair. Both lower tabs
were cracked, and the 80's tab was completely broken. Had them do
their rebuild/reinforce special. I've used this company several times
before.
They came back a few days later looking like a 14 year old girl trying
to apply lipstick for the first time.
They had all 3 been painted with a THICK coat of GLOSSY black paint. I
got them back Monday I can still smell the solvent evaporating from
them. They shine like a waxed and buffed Arai helmet. I was kinda
flummoxed. Didn't expect this at all. The original radiators of these
bikes all had a very thin coat of flat black paint of some
sort--somewhere along the line the oem's decided no paint was better
and newer off-road bikes all have bare aluminum radiators. But glossy
paint???
I am a little worried that the paint is plugging some of the more
bent-up fin-passages. I've taken a thin blade and straightened out a
few. There's definitely paint in there but it looks like poking
delicately around them to straighten will free up the passages.
I think the emissivity of a radiator would be maximized by a *flat*
black surface and glossiness is undesirable. I wrote an email to
Myler's asking about this, what paint was used, etc. in a spirit of
polite curiosity and got back a terse "we went to that paint
because people were complaing about the flat paint."
Allright, what think ye? Thermodynamics 'R Us.
I'm going to scour them with a rag soaked in laquer thinner to get the
gloss off.
And if I ever send them back to Mylers will specify NO PAINT.
--
Charles
'99 YZ250
Posted by XR650L_Dave on February 10, 2010, 12:28 pm
> Continuing the saga of the '99 YZ winter rebuild...
> I sent the radiators off to Myler's radiator repair. Both lower tabs
> were cracked, and the 80's tab was completely broken. Had them do
> their rebuild/reinforce special. I've used this company several times
> before.
> They came back a few days later looking like a 14 year old girl trying
> to apply lipstick for the first time.
> They had all 3 been painted with a THICK coat of GLOSSY black paint. I
> got them back Monday I can still smell the solvent evaporating from
> them. They shine like a waxed and buffed Arai helmet. I was kinda
> flummoxed. Didn't expect this at all. The original radiators of these
> bikes all had a very thin coat of flat black paint of some
> sort--somewhere along the line the oem's decided no paint was better
> and newer off-road bikes all have bare aluminum radiators. But glossy
> paint???
> I am a little worried that the paint is plugging some of the more
> bent-up fin-passages. I've taken a thin blade and straightened out a
> few. There's definitely paint in there but it looks like poking
> delicately around them to straighten will free up the passages.
> I think the emissivity of a radiator would be maximized by a *flat*
> black surface and glossiness is undesirable. I wrote an email to
> Myler's asking about this, what paint was used, etc. in a spirit of
> polite curiosity and got back a terse "we went to that paint
> because people were complaing about the flat paint."
> Allright, what think ye? Thermodynamics 'R Us.
> I'm going to scour them with a rag soaked in laquer thinner to get the
> gloss off.
> And if I ever send them back to Mylers will specify NO PAINT.
> --
> Charles
> '99 YZ250
Difference between flat and gloss, or what color, is pretty small.
Thickness of the paint (insulation) and physically reducing and
blocking passages, possibly a significant effect.
Dave
Posted by HellSickle on February 10, 2010, 12:36 pm
Any organic material (such as paint), will be at least 2 orders of
magnitude lower in thermal conductivity than any metal. A shame they
felt the need to paint them.
-Jeff-
Posted by HardWorkingDog on February 10, 2010, 1:16 pm
In article
> Any organic material (such as paint), will be at least 2 orders of
> magnitude lower in thermal conductivity than any metal. A shame they
> felt the need to paint them.
Yeah. I was kinda disappointed :(
Time for Whelan to step in here and rant...I need to learn aluminum
welding, because I'd sure rather have done this myself than pay what I
did for a stupid-pet-trick of a job. Funny thing is, having used them
before, I thought this was going to be one of the smoothly
accomplished steps.
--
Charles
'99 YZ250
Posted by The Real Bev on February 10, 2010, 5:33 pm
On 02/10/2010 10:16 AM, HardWorkingDog wrote:
>> Any organic material (such as paint), will be at least 2 orders of
>> magnitude lower in thermal conductivity than any metal. A shame they
>> felt the need to paint them.
> Yeah. I was kinda disappointed :(
> Time for Whelan to step in here and rant...I need to learn aluminum
> welding, because I'd sure rather have done this myself than pay what I
> did for a stupid-pet-trick of a job. Funny thing is, having used them
> before, I thought this was going to be one of the smoothly
> accomplished steps.
Never underestimate the possibility of a business retaining its old name when
it changes hands. I got stung that way at a local frame shop once :-(
--
Cheers, Bev
Far away in a strange land
> I sent the radiators off to Myler's radiator repair. Both lower tabs
> were cracked, and the 80's tab was completely broken. Had them do
> their rebuild/reinforce special. I've used this company several times
> before.
> They came back a few days later looking like a 14 year old girl trying
> to apply lipstick for the first time.
> They had all 3 been painted with a THICK coat of GLOSSY black paint. I
> got them back Monday I can still smell the solvent evaporating from
> them. They shine like a waxed and buffed Arai helmet. I was kinda
> flummoxed. Didn't expect this at all. The original radiators of these
> bikes all had a very thin coat of flat black paint of some
> sort--somewhere along the line the oem's decided no paint was better
> and newer off-road bikes all have bare aluminum radiators. But glossy
> paint???
> I am a little worried that the paint is plugging some of the more
> bent-up fin-passages. I've taken a thin blade and straightened out a
> few. There's definitely paint in there but it looks like poking
> delicately around them to straighten will free up the passages.
> I think the emissivity of a radiator would be maximized by a *flat*
> black surface and glossiness is undesirable. I wrote an email to
> Myler's asking about this, what paint was used, etc. in a spirit of
> polite curiosity and got back a terse "we went to that paint
> because people were complaing about the flat paint."
> Allright, what think ye? Thermodynamics 'R Us.
> I'm going to scour them with a rag soaked in laquer thinner to get the
> gloss off.
> And if I ever send them back to Mylers will specify NO PAINT.
> --
> Charles
> '99 YZ250