Posted by Baldy on November 29, 2009, 9:21 am
Aprilia quits the new Moto2 class following the FIM decree that all
particiating manufactures must use Honda engines and Dunlop tyres.
"The group believes that involvement in races where all competitors
must necessarily use the engine technology of a rival constructor
would serve no purpose and would be detrimental to its image as a
leading Italian and European motorcycle manufacturer," a statement
from Aprilia owner Piaggio
Can't fault that statement.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKGEE5AN1RD20091124
Posted by Dave on November 30, 2009, 10:19 pm
wrote:
>Aprilia quits the new Moto2 class following the FIM decree that all
>particiating manufactures must use Honda engines and Dunlop tyres.
>"The group believes that involvement in races where all competitors
>must necessarily use the engine technology of a rival constructor
>would serve no purpose and would be detrimental to its image as a
>leading Italian and European motorcycle manufacturer," a statement
>from Aprilia owner Piaggio
>Can't fault that statement.
>http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKGEE5AN1RD20091124
Spec motors have been the plan for some time now. Why are you and
Aprilia just now choosing to make a fuss about it?
I don't think Moto2 is designed for having direct factory teams. It's
a chassis building series designed to bring in the (relatively) lower
budget independent teams. Teams run by aftermarket performance shops,
dealership consortiums, and such. Judging by the number of team
applications they had to turn away, it seems the formula has
widespread acceptance for controlling costs, leveling the field, and
leaving just enough room to tune for the best to succeed. Aprilia
really doesn't belong there as a factory effort.
I fail to see how it's a disgraceful monopoly.
Posted by pablo on November 30, 2009, 11:06 pm
> wrote:
> >Aprilia quits the new Moto2 class following the FIM decree that all
> >particiating manufactures must use Honda engines and Dunlop tyres.
> >"The group believes that involvement in races where all competitors
> >must necessarily use the engine technology of a rival constructor
> >would serve no purpose and would be detrimental to its image as a
> >leading Italian and European motorcycle manufacturer," a statement
> >from Aprilia owner Piaggio
> >Can't fault that statement.
> >http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKGEE5AN1RD20091124
> Spec motors have been the plan for some time now. Why are you and
> Aprilia just now choosing to make a fuss about it?
> ...
> I fail to see how it's a disgraceful monopoly.
I agree and second that thought.
I don't think how it is a monopoly when it is not like (a) Honda is
likely to turn it into a competitive differentiator (b) Honda is not
likely to turn it into a very profitable operation (c) the motor
honors are likely to be passed around the different vendors over the
years.
I think it would be a major competitive differentiator if a different
chassis with a Honda motor wins the championship though. It'd be a
major proof of superior handling know how for the brand, and sportbike
riders appreciate that...
It is a shame the exotic chassis makers are not as much en vogue
anymore as they were many years ago. It'd be nice if the Moto2 grid
had some Bimotas, Bakker, Egli...
Posted by Baldy on December 1, 2009, 4:43 pm
I had rather hoped that this class would not take shape, after all
part of racing is determined by success away from the racetrack ie.
Win on Sunday, sell on Monday. Aprilia obviously aren't constrained by
finance so they do not want this 'production' class and that is part
of prototype racing - winning by the failure of your opponent due to
cost of racing and development. This halfbreed series will focus on
the personality of the racer and ignore the now diminished role of the
constructor. It isn't always a bad thing to have a clearly dominant
machine because I'd bet my bottom dollar that the one thing we'll see
more of next year from the Moto2 is going to be accidents - lots and
big. Its what always happens when a lot of guys with equal machines go
get to race. The macabre spectacle might appeal to some but don't kid
yourself, many racers who have had a fearsome crash (determined as
'the big one') are never the same again and there is sure to be a
hefty share in this new series.
Posted by pablo on December 1, 2009, 11:03 pm
> ... isn't always a bad thing to have a clearly dominant
> machine because I'd bet my bottom dollar that the one thing we'll see
> more of next year from the Moto2 is going to be accidents - lots and
> big. Its what always happens when a lot of guys with equal machines go
> get to race ..
I think accidents also happen when guys on inferior machines ride them
too hard to try to win. I think the opposite argument could be made
too. The one thing I never ever hope for in motorcycle racing is
accidents. I certainly hope your prediction doesn't come true. I do
think even with "equal" machines the best riders tend to be able to
set them up better. After a while it is never a coincidence that the
best riders and the best machines seem to come together on most
occasions.
>particiating manufactures must use Honda engines and Dunlop tyres.
>"The group believes that involvement in races where all competitors
>must necessarily use the engine technology of a rival constructor
>would serve no purpose and would be detrimental to its image as a
>leading Italian and European motorcycle manufacturer," a statement
>from Aprilia owner Piaggio
>Can't fault that statement.
>http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKGEE5AN1RD20091124