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FIRE HAYDEN! PRETTYXOLGA 06-01-2008
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Posted by on June 1, 2008, 8:25 pm
Guys totally out of his depth.

He has the best bike yet he is the worst American in the field, sure
USA can dish up a better rider than this?

One of those 2 Italian guys on the non factory honda should get the
ride.

How the fuck did he [beat?] *cough* Rossi

Cheers

P/S/O

Posted by Carl Sundquist on June 1, 2008, 8:59 pm

> Guys totally out of his depth.
>
> He has the best bike yet he is the worst American in the field, sure
> USA can dish up a better rider than this?
>
> One of those 2 Italian guys on the non factory honda should get the
> ride.
>
> How the fuck did he [beat?] *cough* Rossi
>
> Cheers
>
> P/S/O

If you don't know how he beat Rossi, then I'd say you're not qualified to
determine that he's "totally out of his depth".


Posted by Dave on June 2, 2008, 4:01 am
wrote:

>
>>
>> How the fuck did he [beat?] *cough* Rossi
>
>If you don't know how he beat Rossi, then I'd say you're not qualified to
>determine that he's "totally out of his depth".

To take a somewhat constructive turn on this trollish thread...

I had the good fortune to see the Eurosport version of the LeMans race
as well as the practice and qualifying session. God I wish we could
get good coverage like that over here in the States. Moody, Ryder,
and Mamola provide so much more pertinent information without the bias
and hero worship we get on our broadcasts.

Anyway, throughout the practice sessions they took a genuine look at
what's troubling the likes of Hayden as well as the non-Stoner Ducati
riders. Although they never connected the dots, it was perfectly
clear to me. Melandri and Hayden need to swap places.

Hayden was languishing down around 15th all weekend. He could be seen
sliding the bike all over the place and generally looking like he was
just trying too hard and it was making him slow. Meanwhile Pedrosa
looked smooth and fast. It was actually quite enjoyable watching how
Dani was working the corners and lifting the bike early for better
drive.

Then look at Melandri. He's trying to be smooth but the bike just
isn't going anywhere. They pointed out how much movement the bike has
with Casey on it, how much better it responds when he throws it around
and it bucks and weaves on him (much like the WSBK Ducati's with the
likes of Bayliss I might add).

So, we have Hayden trying to manhandle a bike that needs to be smooth,
and we have Melandri trying to pussyfoot a bike that needs some rough
attention.

I expect that Hayden will not be on a Repsol bike next year. Does
anyone know if Melandri signed a one year contract or a longer one? I
think a swap by those two might prove fruitful for everyone involved.


Posted by just bob on June 2, 2008, 12:14 pm

> wrote:
>
>>
>>>
>>> How the fuck did he [beat?] *cough* Rossi
>>
>>If you don't know how he beat Rossi, then I'd say you're not qualified to
>>determine that he's "totally out of his depth".
>
> To take a somewhat constructive turn on this trollish thread...
>
> I had the good fortune to see the Eurosport version of the LeMans race
> as well as the practice and qualifying session. God I wish we could
> get good coverage like that over here in the States. Moody, Ryder,
> and Mamola provide so much more pertinent information without the bias
> and hero worship we get on our broadcasts.
>
> Anyway, throughout the practice sessions they took a genuine look at
> what's troubling the likes of Hayden as well as the non-Stoner Ducati
> riders. Although they never connected the dots, it was perfectly
> clear to me. Melandri and Hayden need to swap places.
>
> Hayden was languishing down around 15th all weekend. He could be seen
> sliding the bike all over the place and generally looking like he was
> just trying too hard and it was making him slow. Meanwhile Pedrosa
> looked smooth and fast. It was actually quite enjoyable watching how
> Dani was working the corners and lifting the bike early for better
> drive.
>
> Then look at Melandri. He's trying to be smooth but the bike just
> isn't going anywhere. They pointed out how much movement the bike has
> with Casey on it, how much better it responds when he throws it around
> and it bucks and weaves on him (much like the WSBK Ducati's with the
> likes of Bayliss I might add).
>
> So, we have Hayden trying to manhandle a bike that needs to be smooth,
> and we have Melandri trying to pussyfoot a bike that needs some rough
> attention.
>
> I expect that Hayden will not be on a Repsol bike next year. Does
> anyone know if Melandri signed a one year contract or a longer one? I
> think a swap by those two might prove fruitful for everyone involved.

Great observation. I wish they would swap. On past experience we know Hayden
is good enough to mix it up with the best but his old style of riding just
is not working for him.



Posted by Dave on June 2, 2008, 9:47 pm
It occured to me that I should have changed the subject when I replied
to the Troll, so I'm reposting this...


I had the good fortune to see the Eurosport version of the LeMans race
as well as the practice and qualifying session. God I wish we could
get good coverage like that over here in the States. Moody, Ryder,
and Mamola provide so much more pertinent information without the bias
and hero worship we get on our broadcasts.

Anyway, throughout the practice sessions they took a genuine look at
what's troubling the likes of Hayden as well as the non-Stoner Ducati
riders. Although they never connected the dots, it was perfectly
clear to me. Melandri and Hayden need to swap places.

Hayden was languishing down around 15th all weekend. He could be seen
sliding the bike all over the place and generally looking like he was
just trying too hard and it was making him slow. Meanwhile Pedrosa
looked smooth and fast. It was actually quite enjoyable watching how
Dani was working the corners and lifting the bike early for better
drive.

Then look at Melandri. He's trying to be smooth but the bike just
isn't going anywhere. They pointed out how much movement the bike has
with Casey on it, how much better it responds when he throws it around
and it bucks and weaves on him (much like the WSBK Ducati's with the
likes of Bayliss I might add).

So, we have Hayden trying to manhandle a bike that needs to be smooth,
and we have Melandri trying to pussyfoot a bike that needs some rough
attention.

I expect that Hayden will not be on a Repsol bike next year. Does
anyone know if Melandri signed a one year contract or a longer one? I
think a swap by those two might prove fruitful for everyone involved.


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