Posted by PaulpULVITZKA on November 26, 2008, 10:19 pm
With Stoner recovering from his operation, nicky is doing the
development on the 09' Ducati
Typical nicky, nowhere, even slower than Canepa on the satellite "B"
bike/team, how embaressment for Ducati and nicky.
Look like another tough year for Ducati, with Stoner having to do all
the work and all the racing, but with little time to get up to speed.
Might as well just had a one man team and saved the dough
OR GAVE THE RIDE TO SIMONCELLI........., when will Ducati listen to
what i have to say and see the light, nicky is a nothing rider, alway
was always will be NOTHING
Easy run for Vale then?
http://www.crash.net/motorsport/motogp/news/172164-0/jerez_motogp_test_times_-_wednesday.html
PLEASE nicky prove me wrong.....
Posted by just bob on November 26, 2008, 11:55 pm
>
http://www.crash.net/motorsport/motogp/news/172164-0/jerez_motogp_test_times_-_wednesday.html
Both Ducs were way down the charts so obviously they were testing something
and not going for top speed
Posted by Julian Bond on November 27, 2008, 2:34 am
>>
>>http://www.crash.net/motorsport/motogp/news/172164-0/jerez_motogp_test_
>>times_-_wednesday.html
>>
>Both Ducs were way down the charts so obviously they were testing something
>and not going for top speed
Well that's a good bit of spin. While Pedrosa is inside his lap record,
all 5 ducatis are at least 2.5s behind him. While Hayden does his usual
huge number of laps.
However, at the dawn of the 800 era I was at the Jerez test in the
spring. It was cold and foggy in the mornings with damp patches. Hayden
looked very tentative. By the hot Sunday afternoon he was beginning to
hang it out. So here we have one of his first proper rides on a cold
track with a new surface. I think he'll go quite a bit faster as he
creeps up on his confidence and a setting that works for him.
For the last couple of years, he's managed to pull out a quick time in
the final qualifying lap. That's going to be much harder to do when
there are no qualifiers.
And then, this is the first track test at Jerez on the new carbon frame.
Who knows if it actually works here.
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Posted by just bob on November 28, 2008, 3:01 pm
>>> http://www.crash.net/motorsport/motogp/news/172164-0/jerez_motogp_test_
>>>times_-_wednesday.html
>>>
>>Both Ducs were way down the charts so obviously they were testing
>>something
>>and not going for top speed
> Well that's a good bit of spin. While Pedrosa is inside his lap record,
> all 5 ducatis are at least 2.5s behind him. While Hayden does his usual
> huge number of laps.
True enough. I just glanced at the times and saw Canepa was barely ahead of
him... but I had not noticed until later he is not on the factory bike(?).
At least Hayden gained about two seconds on the next day (again just glanced
at the times).
Posted by Mark N on November 30, 2008, 2:21 am
Julian Bond wrote:
> Well that's a good bit of spin. While Pedrosa is inside his lap record,
> all 5 ducatis are at least 2.5s behind him. While Hayden does his usual
> huge number of laps.
>
> However, at the dawn of the 800 era I was at the Jerez test in the
> spring. It was cold and foggy in the mornings with damp patches. Hayden
> looked very tentative. By the hot Sunday afternoon he was beginning to
> hang it out. So here we have one of his first proper rides on a cold
> track with a new surface. I think he'll go quite a bit faster as he
> creeps up on his confidence and a setting that works for him.
Julian, I have to compliment you, you have no peer at the left-handed
compliments!
> For the last couple of years, he's managed to pull out a quick time in
> the final qualifying lap. That's going to be much harder to do when
> there are no qualifiers.
Why is that, isn't everyone going to be qualifying on race tires? Are
you saying Hayden has some particular advantage on qualifiers? My
impression is that he realized how important starting from the front was
a few years ago and really worked at getting that one-off hot lap. I
doubt that's a skill that has abandoned him.
> And then, this is the first track test at Jerez on the new carbon frame.
> Who knows if it actually works here.
And one has to remember that Hayden is not only switching bikes, he's
switching tires as well. Here are the Jerez day two fast times:
1. Valentino Rossi (ITA) Fiat Yamaha Team 1'39.429
2. Dani Pedrosa (SPA) Repsol Honda 1'39.447
3. Jorge Lorenzo (SPA) Fiat Yamaha Team 1'40.426
4. Toni Elias (SPA) Team San Carlo 1'40.448
5. Alex De Angelis (RSM) Team San Carlo 1'40.486
Nicky Hayden (USA) Ducati Marlboro Team 1'40.486
7. Mika Kallio (FIN) Alice Team 1'40.564
8. Colin Edwards (USA) Tech 3 Yamaha 1'40.604
9. Sete Gibernau (SPA) Grupo Francisco Hernando 1'40.856
10. Andrea Dovizioso (ITA) Repsol Honda 1'40.966
11. Niccolò Canepa (ITA) Ducati Test 1'41.077
12. James Toseland (GBR) Tech 3 Yamaha 1'41.740
13. Vittoriano Guareschi (ITA) Ducati Marlboro Team 1'42.906
14. Yuki Takahashi (JPN) JiR Team Scot Honda 1'42.918
Other than new-to-MotoGP Kallio, the only guy changing machines and
tires is Dovizioso, and he's still on a Honda, just a notably different
one. The guys at PI testing are all on the same tires, and 3 of the 4 on
the same bike. Gibernau and Canepa have been testing Ducatis on
Bridgestones this year, so they are hardly unacquainted with their
tackle. So really only Kallio is in the same sort of situation as
Hayden, although obviously he's making a bigger adjustment in some
respects. Well, Takahashi as well, but he's already well on his way to
establishing that typically Japanese "doesn't even count" stature...
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