Motorcycle Race Accident ................dramatic video footage

 I found this clip with a very unfortunate Motorcycle Race Accident
involving 2 drivers and 2 Track assistants. Does someone here has or
know about this crash, where when ect. ?
regrads, F. Nufer
http://www.jumpingpixels.com/motorcyclecrash.html

 
That is sickening sh*t dammit.

That is exactly what happens when unprofessional, amateurish crews control a
race. A bike was in the middle of the mother%$#@! racetrack for a straight
minute, and obviously no mother&^%^%$#! flags warned anyone, there is no way
on earth anyone would have come in so hot if they'd yellow- or justifiably
red-flagged the race.

I *HATE* to see crap like this, with an immense passion. Sickens me.

...pablo

 pablo wrote:

pablo, I think you might wanna check your judgemental attitude a
little.  I don't know how much experience you have, but I've
cornerworked (CCS, AMA, and FIM) including Loudon and have raced there
myself.  What I can tell you is that not getting the right flags up
happens much too often.  As a cornerworker, your order of priorities
are as follows:

1. yourself
2. your fellow cornerworkers
3. injured rider(s)
4. other riders on the track

Red flagging a race is a bit of an artform in that the decision has to
come from the control station and the red flags must go up everywhere
simultaneously.  The way red flags happen is when the workers at the
incident believe the situation warrants it, fly waving yellows and
possibly debris flags and at the same time radio to the control
requesting a red flag.  Then it's up to the control to decide what to
do.  As you probably know, incidents like this can unravel very quickly
and sometimes, as a cornerworker, you just have to do the best under
the circumstances.

A few years ago, I cornerworked for an AMA/FIM superbike weekend at
Laguna Seca.  I was in turn 10 and we got most of the crashes of the
Saturday.  There was one incident I remember vividly, where 2 riders
(Hayden and Mladin I think) came together and Mladin's bike was totally
destroyed, parts were everywhere, including right on the racing line.
Turn 10 at Laguna is a pretty fast corner (which one isn't when those
guys are on track?) and we knew bikes would be coming around fully
committed in no time.  We relied on the flagman to fly waving yellows
and others to do the "line change" signals to the riders.  For whatever
reason it didn't happen right away.  After I got Mladin's bike off the
track, I noticed his fuel injection unit was still on the racing line
and no one was close by.  So I went for it.  When I picked it up and
looked up, I saw Eric Bostrom's 32 headed right at me.  If it wasn't
for his quick reaction, I wouldn't be here writing about it.  Would it
have been the flagman's fault? -- maybe, honestly I didn't see what was
happening there and I can't jump to conclusions.  I do know that at
that moment, my teammates were giving him the "line change" motion,
though it wasn't enough of a warning at that spot -- but that was all
that they could do at the time in that moment.  But I do know this: a
waving yellow by itself does not mean "slow down".  It just means
there's an incident coming up and you can't pass.  Even in club races,
you don't back off for yellows unless it's accompanied by a debris or
ambulance flag, or a "line change" sign.

In that particular video, a red flag should have come out sooner, I'm
sure.  But it's hard to know what really transpired there.  But my
point is that as a cornerworker, you rely on your teammates to watch
your back in situations like that, both literally and in the form of
flag people and the control doing their job.  But no matter what, it's
always dangerous and it's a labor of love.  Those guys at club races
are there all day through the rain and the sun and the most they get is
a T-shirt and lunch.  You have to love it to do it.  And my hat's off
to them.  I always try to wave at each cornerworker station on the
cool-down lap.


Agreed.  It was nasty.

 

Come on. There was no excuse for guys to be on the track while it was
obvious no one had *yellow* flagged things, guys were still coming in full
tilt, and predictably as soon as a larger formation came in the riders in
the middle of the pack raced into that mess.


Yeah, and the best protection is to yellow-flag as soon as someone is in the
iddle of a racetrack. You're supposed to yellow-flag immediately.


That was not the best cornerworkers can do, and you know it. There was
plenty of time, and riders where coming in hot all the time.


I agree. nevertheless it is also a huge responsibility, and with
responsibiluty comes accountability. To me it's obvious the cornerworkers
did not work as a team in that incident. I pity the corageous guys that went
out onto the racetrack to check on the riders well-being, and the fact they
were criminally let down by other cornerworkers probably just looking o
insead of running ahead with a yellow flag. There should have been yellow
flags immediately all over the freaking place. The first accident could not
be avoided. The nasty follow-up looked perfectly avoidable - plenty of time,
no yelow flags anywhere, riders coming in at full race speed. A shame. A
damn shame someone has to get hurt.

...pablo

 pablo wrote:


I don't usually watch those kind of vids(abortions)and I know how corner
guys don't get the respect, or credit when things go well, but get
dumped on when things go south. Having said that, I agree, this whole
deal looked avoidable even though hindsight is always 20/20. At least
they didn't send an ambulance out there like has happened in AMA a few
times, although there is probably one guy who now wished they had...