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Posted by Mark N on January 22, 2010, 4:03 pm
pablo wrote:
> I remember Dennis Noyes because he lived in Montcugat (north of
> Barcelona) and wrote for Solo Moto and then Motociclismo in Spain. And
> very funny. And a total groupie of Roberts and Mamola and Baldwin and
> the entire US invasion and wrote to make them very popular and beloved
> in Spain. (Geez, Roberts Jr learned to ride a bike mostly in Spain and
> Mark N doesn't mention that :-))
No, I didn't and that's because:
a) It has no bearing whatsoever on the matter at hand
b) It isn't even true in any case.
> Noyes is cool, and *totally* American. Since when is living in Europe
> anti-USA? Geez, some people...
So people indeed. Of course we were talking about Kenny Noyes and not
Dennis Noyes. And this was about Moto2 having an American presence,
which is a bit more than just having one rider who happens to be
American by nationality, even though he was born and largely raised in
Spain, and his roadracing career has entirely been in Spain as well.
Not so different than calling Jamie Hacking or John Hopkins British.,
and calling Hopper a British presence in MotoGP...
Posted by Ed Light on January 22, 2010, 4:30 pm
Dennis Noyes who was an announcer at motogp.com streaming? The father of
Kenny?
I wrote him suggesting doing an article about, if I remember right, why
not use larger front tires, and he wrote an article just for me. Never
published it, I think.
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Posted by Mark N on January 18, 2010, 12:53 pm
Champ wrote:
> Mark N wrote:
>>>> Moto2 is really the only positive development
>>>> But the fact that there is no American presence
>>> Confirmed
>>> Promoracing Kenny Noyes Harris
>> I don't call that an American presence, it's just one rider who is
>> American by nationality (even though he was actually born in Spain), a
>> technicality. Noyes isn't someone who came up through racing in America;
>> although his parents intentionally started him racing on dirt in
>> America, I think all his roadracing has been done in Spain, which makes
>> him more of the same (although he has a four stroke background more than
>> two stroke). And he has no particular fan allegiance in this country.
>
> There's a long history of Australian riders coming to Britain, from
> Gardner to Stoner, because that's where the action is, and that's
> where you get noticed. No one suggests they are any less Australian.
>
> So why is an American rider building his careeer in Spain any
> different?
Noyes isn't someone who raced in the US and then decided in order to
make it at a top level (or just to make a living at racing, which I
think is more the case with the Aussies) he had to go to Europe. Noyes
was born in Spain and effectively grew up there, because his father was
a working journalist reporting on GP, and likely he only raced dirttrack
in the US as a kid because he and his father felt that would be a way to
develop skills that would pay off for him later on. Otherwise, he's
basically just another Spanish racer. And the context of my original
comment was about expanding the nature of the class beyond the usual 125
graduates and Spanish/Italian teams, and Noyes doesn't really do that.
He can ride in the class in ways he couldn't ride in 250 because (I
assume) he's physically bigger than the usual 125/250 rider profile and
he's experienced at racing big four strokes, but that's kind of like a
young Ruben Xaus coming into Moto2 and not a real outsider.
Posted by Julian Bond on January 18, 2010, 1:51 pm
>Noyes isn't someone who raced in the US and then decided in order to
>make it at a top level
Nothing to do with his passport then.
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Posted by Mark N on January 18, 2010, 2:16 pm
Julian Bond wrote:
> Mark N
>> Noyes isn't someone who raced in the US and then decided in order to
>> make it at a top level
>
> Nothing to do with his passport then.
Do you have a point to make, Julian?
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> Barcelona) and wrote for Solo Moto and then Motociclismo in Spain. And
> very funny. And a total groupie of Roberts and Mamola and Baldwin and
> the entire US invasion and wrote to make them very popular and beloved
> in Spain. (Geez, Roberts Jr learned to ride a bike mostly in Spain and
> Mark N doesn't mention that :-))