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Posted by pablo on February 5, 2010, 9:48 am
Not that it uncovers any major trends though, and conditions weren't
optimal to boot.
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Posted by Julian Bond on February 5, 2010, 12:48 pm
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>Not that it uncovers any major trends though, and conditions weren't
>optimal to boot.
Well Honda (or at least Pedrosa) has effectively a brand new bike. New
frame, swingarm, engine, ohlins, fairing.
Hard to draw any conclusions as it was stupidly hot and they lost half a
day to rain. And of course, it's only testing.
Doe the engines used in these tests (and the one day ones later in the
season) count towards their 6?
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Posted by Andrew on February 5, 2010, 2:32 pm
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>>Not that it uncovers any major trends though, and conditions weren't
>>optimal to boot.
> Well Honda (or at least Pedrosa) has effectively a brand new bike. New
> frame, swingarm, engine, ohlins, fairing.
> Hard to draw any conclusions as it was stupidly hot and they lost half a
> day to rain. And of course, it's only testing.
> Doe the engines used in these tests (and the one day ones later in the
> season) count towards their 6?
How about Edwards running in 3rd and saying the M1 has a lot more grunt down
low?
That is interesting as hell. Vale says it is quite fast, as well.
What did they do to move the power down lower and still keep the bike fast?
I wonder how many races the engine will do.
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Posted by Julian Bond on February 5, 2010, 3:31 pm
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>I wonder how many races the engine will do.
There's a bunch of bets, or maybe a drinking game
- Which of the factories will have an engine blow up first on a factory
bike?
- How many race before Suzuki elect to start from the back of the grid
in order to get a fresh engine?
- Which Rookie will have a huge high side first? (already won by Marco
Simoncelli)
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Posted by Mark N on February 5, 2010, 11:01 pm
Julian Bond wrote:
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> pablo
>> Not that it uncovers any major trends though
>
> Hard to draw any conclusions as it was stupidly hot and they lost half a
> day to rain. And of course, it's only testing.
Yep, only testing, but if one really wants to draw some conclusions
anyway, they're not hard to see:
- The Yamaha remains the best bike.
- Honda still has problems, viewed from both the factory and the
satellite perspectives.
- Stoner's bike remains far ahead of the other Ducati riders' machines.
- The Aliens still are out front of everyone else, although the gap
between Pedrosa and Edwards overall was very small. But the gaps between
them are bigger than what we would have hoped, nearly a second overall.
- The field is basically sliced into three parts - the factory lead
Aliens, the hopeful contenders, and the field-filling pretenders. That
was especially clear today, with the Aliens 1-4 but separated by 0.9
second, the contenders 5-8 but 1.3 to 1.6 seconds off the pace, and then
the rest led by Capirossi and Melandri (almost) and 1.7-2.4 seconds off
the pace.
- Hayden is right where he ended last season, a few tenths ahead of the
satellites but roughly a second off Stoner. Dovizioso is about the same,
a hair closer to Pedrosa than the fastest satellite bike, but more
like the end of '09 than the beginning.
- Capirossi's first day time distorts things a bit, but then he led
the first day last year in this test, with a time better than what he
did this week.
- No question among the rookies, even with a bad case of jet lag and
being the only guy having to learn the track, Spies led the way. Closest
was Espargaro, the only one to race his MotoGP bike here last fall.
Sucking hind tit were the big stars of 250, Aoyama, Simoncelli and
Bautista. Simo in particular is being embarrassed by comparison to
Spies, since he's supposed to be the big MotoGP prospect who will
blossom on a bike more fitting his size; one wonders if he's actually at
more of a disadvantage on the electronically-controlled DaniBike (still
haven't seen a picture of him dwarfing that thing).
Anyway, the overall impression is stagnation, really no change to the
math evidenced since they rolled away the crates at Valencia three
months ago. And there isn't anything to suggest the racing will get any
better. The word that the only difference between the Hondas will be
electronics, as MotoGPMatters put it, "HRC can cut costs and increase
efficiency in both manufacturing and maintenance, while still
controlling the performance of the satellite machines through the
electronics package", somehow sums up the feeling one gets about the
whole thing. On top of that, Matters also reports the factories are
lobbying for the goddamned 800s to stay through 2012 - fuuuuck...
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