Posted by Paul B on October 19, 2006, 6:23 pm
If things were different and it was Hayden leading by 8 points over Rossi I
suspect the majority would pick Rossi to clinch the championship, in other
words the majority believe Rossi has the talent to beat Hayden and one other
would come between them to make it so. If Rossi was 8 points down and they
interviewed him last week he would say he has a very steep hill to climb, a
very hard challenge but he would never say his back was against the wall or
be defeatist about the situation, he would see it as a final challenge and
use all his energy and talent to do the best he could from the situation.
Hayden on the other hand seems to make it all doom and gloom, "All he has to
do is follow me", I find that attitude apalling, I know he's hurt from the
incident last race but that's the first DNF for him this year, in some
respects it puts the championship points in balance after all most of his
closet challengers have had bad luck this year that has set them back many
points in the championship and yet they are still within a stones throw of
Hayden, who in has been lucky not through skill to have avoided some of the
mishaps his competitors have had.
While it's always unfortunate to be taken out through no fault of your own
life goes on, maybe he should have been less conservative and more
aggressive when he had the opportunity to make up a few points here and
there, a page out of Rossi's book in that respect wouldn't go astray, one
thing you can say of Rossi is he always makes the most of any situation and
salvages what he can, take the last race, a sensible 3rd would have been a
safe bet but he had the courage to go for the win, ok he got 2nd but those 4
points from been 3rd may win him the championship.
The battle isn't over for Hayden, he can beat Rossi and has to hope someone
else comes between them but to give up isn't what a real world champion
would do at this stage, more than ever his real measure is this last race
and it's up to him to make the most of it.
Personally I think Rossi will kick his ass but thats not the point.
Paul
Posted by Jake on October 19, 2006, 7:25 pm
Paul B wrote:
> If Rossi was 8 points down and they
> interviewed him last week he would say he has a very steep hill to climb, a
> very hard challenge but he would never say his back was against the wall or
> be defeatist about the situation, he would see it as a final challenge and
> use all his energy and talent to do the best he could from the situation.
> Hayden on the other hand seems to make it all doom and gloom, "All he has to
> do is follow me", I find that attitude apalling,
If Rossi was down by 8 points going into the last race, I can guarantee
that he'd say something like "well, is out of our control, all we can
do is try for the win and hope Colin can come in 2nd. Tomorrow we
see." Which is more or less what Nicky said, because he even if he
wins, he has to count on someone else with essentially nothing at stake
riding hard and fast enough to beat Rossi.
Of course, Rossi already has 5 championships, and the 6th one is
clearly less important than the first, so he can afford to be a bit
more blase about it.
I also suspect that had Pedrosa taken Rossi out last weekend instead of
Hayden, he might not be holding a fifteen-minute long press conference
shortly after the race finished.
-jake
Posted by auscars on October 19, 2006, 7:57 pm
Jake wrote:
> Paul B wrote:
> > If Rossi was 8 points down and they
> > interviewed him last week he would say he has a very steep hill to climb, a
> > very hard challenge but he would never say his back was against the wall or
> > be defeatist about the situation, he would see it as a final challenge and
> > use all his energy and talent to do the best he could from the situation.
> > Hayden on the other hand seems to make it all doom and gloom, "All he has to
> > do is follow me", I find that attitude apalling,
> If Rossi was down by 8 points going into the last race, I can guarantee
> that he'd say something like "well, is out of our control, all we can
> do is try for the win and hope Colin can come in 2nd. Tomorrow we
> see." Which is more or less what Nicky said, because he even if he
> wins, he has to count on someone else with essentially nothing at stake
> riding hard and fast enough to beat Rossi.
> Of course, Rossi already has 5 championships, and the 6th one is
> clearly less important than the first, so he can afford to be a bit
> more blase about it.
No, Rossi is still pissed off with haonda, remember they did not let
him ride the Yamaha till after the 31st Dec. they also treated him like
shit, said GOLD "WE DONT NEED HIM TO WIN" & "WE WILL DESTROY HIM"
promised him a F1 drive never delivered, have not delived him his
Championship bike, goes on and on....
How could ANYONE respect a company like that?
Besides the final nail will be to beat not match doohans, [although his
win ratio is already a good 15% higher] 5 straight AND win EVERY 990cc
MotoGP Championship ever.
I like Rossi.., done more for the sport than any other rider in
history...
> I also suspect that had Pedrosa taken Rossi out last weekend instead of
> Hayden, he might not be holding a fifteen-minute long press conference
> shortly after the race finished.
He would not leave Italy alive....
>
> -jake
Posted by adams_gomez on October 19, 2006, 8:14 pm
auscars@gmail.com wrote:
> Besides the final nail will be to beat not match doohans, [although his
> win ratio is already a good 15% higher] 5 straight AND win EVERY 990cc
> MotoGP Championship ever.
Winning his premier class champs on two different makes of bike already
puts him way beyond Doohan. The clincher would be for him to also win
one on a Ducati.
Posted by auscars on October 19, 2006, 8:33 pm
adams_gomez@hotmail.com wrote:
> auscars@gmail.com wrote:
> > Besides the final nail will be to beat not match doohans, [although his
> > win ratio is already a good 15% higher] 5 straight AND win EVERY 990cc
> > MotoGP Championship ever.
> Winning his premier class champs on two different makes of bike already
> puts him way beyond Doohan. The clincher would be for him to also win
> one on a Ducati.
<<<<<< "2008" >>>>>>
BUT Rossi has to want to, because Yamaha just keep blowing away any
offer Ducati make
Its the best $20 million per year wage spent by Yamaha [Of which the M1
still is a piece of crap, its level is where Edwards is...] without him
on borad its a middle field runner...
> interviewed him last week he would say he has a very steep hill to climb, a
> very hard challenge but he would never say his back was against the wall or
> be defeatist about the situation, he would see it as a final challenge and
> use all his energy and talent to do the best he could from the situation.
> Hayden on the other hand seems to make it all doom and gloom, "All he has to
> do is follow me", I find that attitude apalling,