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Re: 2007 MGP Champ 01-20-2007
---> Re: 2007 MGP Bruce Hartweg01-20-2007
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Posted by Champ on January 20, 2007, 6:19 am
On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 20:16:54 -0800, "pablo"

>Pedrosa was way
>too irregular last season, which indicates an immaturity the bike can not
>overvcome.

It was his first season on th big bikes! I really think you're allowed
a few get-offs in your first season. Rossi did, Doohan did.

>Rossi showed that he may have suffered reverse-Schwantz
>syndrome - trying to win too hard when he had a chance to run the pace,
>which is a liability unless he corrects it. It undoubtedly cost him the
>championship.

This makes no sense to me at all. Firstly, what is "reverse-Schwantz"
syndrome? (Schwantz fell while leading a couple of times - what would
be the reverse of that?). But anyway, after the DNFs in France and
China, Rossi had no choice but to go out and win - "running the pace"
wouldn't have been enough. And, lastly, he didn't crash while trying
to win! He had one crash in the last race, from 7th place.


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Champ

Posted by Bruce Hartweg on January 20, 2007, 2:16 pm
Champ wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 20:16:54 -0800, "pablo"
>
>> Pedrosa was way
>> too irregular last season, which indicates an immaturity the bike can not
>> overvcome.
>
> It was his first season on th big bikes! I really think you're allowed
> a few get-offs in your first season. Rossi did, Doohan did.
>
I agree, and he did end up not too bad, and history has shown he can
be a robot (his 250 days) so I expect much less falling this year.
Plus the new bike is tailor made to the guy so I wouldn't rule him out
of the fight. Stoner too me looked way more out of whack, I expect
it'll take at least another year or two before he is a contender.

>> Rossi showed that he may have suffered reverse-Schwantz
>> syndrome - trying to win too hard when he had a chance to run the pace,
>> which is a liability unless he corrects it. It undoubtedly cost him the
>> championship.
>
> This makes no sense to me at all. Firstly, what is "reverse-Schwantz"
> syndrome? (Schwantz fell while leading a couple of times - what would
> be the reverse of that?).

falling while *not* leading ;)


Bruce

Posted by Carl Sundquist on January 20, 2007, 3:14 pm

> Champ wrote:
>> On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 20:16:54 -0800, "pablo"
>>
>>> Pedrosa was way too irregular last season, which indicates an immaturity
>>> the bike can not overvcome.
>>
>> It was his first season on th big bikes! I really think you're allowed
>> a few get-offs in your first season. Rossi did, Doohan did.
>>
> I agree, and he did end up not too bad, and history has shown he can
> be a robot (his 250 days) so I expect much less falling this year.
> Plus the new bike is tailor made to the guy so I wouldn't rule him out of
> the fight. Stoner too me looked way more out of whack, I expect
> it'll take at least another year or two before he is a contender.
>


What is the time frame to go from concept to drawing board to production on
a new bike like the 800? Yes, the teams have had several years to work on
them, but going into last year one of the big questions was whether Pedrosa
had the strength to handle the bigger bike over full race distance. Since
the season didn't begin until the end of March, where he finished 2nd and
the second weekend in April for the second race (where he finished 6th), did
Honda have a regular and small versions of the 800 in the works? Or upon
seeing Pedrosa's success on the big bike, wad up plans for a conventionally
proportioned bike and replace them with a diminutive version once it was
clear that smaller riders could handle the larger bike, but would benefit
even more from a more compact package?



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