Posted by Martin Gelder on March 8, 2009, 7:47 am
> On pace cars, BSB has been using a pace car for the last 5-8 years.
Safety cars are used in World Endurance as well; *two* cars come on to
the track at the same time, separated by half a lap. This divides the
field (which can be up to 64 bikes) into two groups, which seems more
manageable than having one big pack. Riders complain about getting
stuck behind the "wrong" car sometimes, but by and large it works
well.
World Endurance has also been running night races for a long time,
with all the circuits at least partially lit. In ten years of
attending every race in the championship, I've never known there to be
a lighting problem.
Posted by Julian Bond on March 8, 2009, 10:02 am
>Safety cars are used in World Endurance as well; *two* cars come on to
>the track at the same time, separated by half a lap. This divides the
>field (which can be up to 64 bikes) into two groups, which seems more
>manageable than having one big pack. Riders complain about getting
>stuck behind the "wrong" car sometimes, but by and large it works
>well.
As Daytona is effectively an endurance race with bikes spread all round
the track after 10 minutes, this might work there. But then 2 cars gives
twice the opportunity for screw ups.
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Posted by Dave on March 8, 2009, 4:33 pm
On Sun, 08 Mar 2009 08:29:08 -0700, Mark N
>Julian Bond wrote:
>> On pace cars, BSB has been using a pace car for the last 5-8 years. It
>> works and everyone understands it. They put a fast car driven
>> aggressively out between the leader and the tail-ender. The car has
>> flashing lights on it that are turned off during the lap when it comes
>> in so the riders know when the race is about to start again. But the
>> tracks and races are short enough that there's usually a clear gap
>> between first and last.
>In other words it's easier and the guys doing it have lots of practice.
>Okay, so what's your point?
To be fair, I think his point was that I mistakenly said that pace
cars aren't used in motorcycle racing anywhere else in the world.
Julian and Martin both pointed out two separate venues where they are.
I stand corrected.
However, I think it's still safe to say that a pace car shouldn't be
used in a one-off event of a larger series. All the unique
characteristics of Daytona make it the most confusing and downright
unsafe event of the year. It also seems to be the biggest clusterfuck
event of the year when it comes to race direction and procedures.
Posted by Julian Bond on March 9, 2009, 3:24 am
>JB: Apparently AMA SBK is going to be discontinued. They're going to
>replace it with club 600ss racing. if the grids get a bit thin, they'll
>make up the numbers with some 1350cc twins.
>Talk about clairvoyance!
LOL!
I really thought the Aprilia RSVs would be faster. I guess the most
notable thing was that the CBR600s really weren't competitive. And I did
have to laugh at the same Buell model being up there in both ASB and
DSB.
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Posted by Julian Bond on March 9, 2009, 3:59 am
>I guess the most notable thing was that the CBR600s really weren't
>competitive.
Or rather, Zemke got screwed by all the messing about.
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2009/Mar/090308a.htm
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