Spies to Yamaha Italia?

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Posted by Julian Bond on September 25, 2008, 10:41 am
 
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Now that Corser has signed for BMW, that leaves a slot open for Spies at
Yamaha-Italia

Next year's WSB looks like being an interesting year. Loads of potential
stories.
- New BMW
- Biaggi on the new Aprilia
- New Suzuki
- Haga on the Corse Ducati
- Brits all over the place
- Spies. Maybe.

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Posted by Dave on September 25, 2008, 12:02 pm
 

On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:41:35 +0100, Julian Bond


I'd still rather see Spies on a well funded Alstare Suzuki, if only
because I think he'd make a more immediate impact on the bike his
entire professional career has been based on.

I'm not entirely convinced about the competitiveness of the Yamahas
despite their current ranking as #2 and #3.  I think the reason
they're as competitive as they are is because Haga just rides the shit
out of them.  Corser, although doing well at #2 in points, only rarely
looks racey enough for a win and hasn't actually won one yet.
Watching the Yamaha I just get the impression that they're competitive
but they're absolutely on their limit to be so.  Whereas the other
bikes seem to be at the limits of the tires more so than the bikes
which gives them a little more comfort room when they're at the limit
too.  I base this partially on how uncompetitive the Yamahas are
around the world.  Only the Italia WSBK squad seems to get anything
consistent out of them and I think the tires are helping them out in
that regard by pulling the competition back to them.

I do think WSBK needs some more good young talent though.  I
understand they're getting some young Brits next year which is good.
If the future of WSBK is Neukirchner, Fabrizio, Lanzi, Kiyonari, et al
then I'm not too impressed or interested.



Posted by Howard Kveck on September 25, 2008, 10:38 pm
 

wrote:


   I think that Neukirchner has done pretty well, considering he's been on the
third
bike in his team. I believe he spent a lot of time early this season on last
year's
bike. He's outdistanced his teammates pretty consistently this year.

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Posted by Mark N on September 26, 2008, 1:51 am
 

Howard Kveck wrote:

third

year's

Problem is, all the Alstare Suzuki guys look pretty bad in comparison to
Spies and Mladin on essentially the same bike. With the possible
exception of the 1098, there's still the notion out there that Suzuki
has the best bike, but no one since Corser has done much with it.

I think the problem in WSB with the riders, expanding on what Dave said,
is that none of them have done all that well, none really look
impressive. Bayliss dominates to some degree, but for a guy who's that
experienced to crash on the last lap of his championship-clinching race?
And hardly his only mistake this year. Haga rides the piss out of the
Yamaha, but he's never looked like a guy actually capable of winning a
championship, too inconsistent, too many mistakes. Corser is consistent
but he hasn't won a race since March '06. Checa sure looked good at
Miller but hardly anything otherwise. Biaggi hasn't done that much this
year and not enough on the Suzuki last year. Nieto is mediocrity
personified. Xaus and Kagayama can be exciting, but are inconsistent and
crash way too much. Throw in the younger guys and that's your top 11 in
points.

Maybe it's the price of competitiveness, but it's hard to feel like
there is all that much talent out there, certainly not past its prime.
While there's a little hope now, it's a series that really needs to draw
in some top young talent for a change. That's what would be so big about
signing Spies, although it doesn't do much if he leaves after a year or
two, just another Vermeulen...


Posted by Julian Bond on September 26, 2008, 2:51 am
 


Really? How do you work that one out then? Or are you blinded by the
inability of anyone else to compete with them in AMA.


WSB has always been a mix of one set of riders on the way up, still
learning the trade and another set on the way down who haven't made it
in MotoGP. So, what?


Like say, 2 years at Yamaha, a championship in his second year and then
swapping places with Toseland or Edwards. That wouldn't be so bad, for
us or for him.

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