Posted by T3 on July 21, 2008, 2:18 pm
"At the end of the day I'm not happy because I've made a mistake and it
has cost me the chance to win this race, but I also think that even if
he rode a great race, some of Valentino's moves early in the race were
too aggressive."
http://superbikeplanet.com/2008/Jul/080721a.htm
Even though I didn't see anything overly aggressive that doesn't mean
it didn't happen, but cryin' about it after you drop your bike in sand
comes off, well, a little "un-Champ" like, doncha' think? Mostly what I
saw was the master taking the youngster to school and very well done
too..
Heheh, Vale breaks another one? Once they start cryin' it's usually
already over and it will be interesting to see how Brno goes...
Posted by Champ on July 21, 2008, 2:41 pm
>"At the end of the day I'm not happy because I've made a mistake and it
>has cost me the chance to win this race, but I also think that even if
>he rode a great race, some of Valentino's moves early in the race were
>too aggressive."
>http://superbikeplanet.com/2008/Jul/080721a.htm
>Even though I didn't see anything overly aggressive that doesn't mean
>it didn't happen, but cryin' about it after you drop your bike in sand
>comes off, well, a little "un-Champ" like, doncha' think? Mostly what I
>saw was the master taking the youngster to school and very well done
>too..
I re-watched the first five laps today, and I really can't see
anything that Rossi can be critcised for. The one 'incident' was
where Vale went past on the way into the corkscrew (a nice clean
move), and ran just into the dirt on the downhill part - he then came
back on to the track a little out of shape, and Stoner had to move
over a little. But really, what was Stoner expecting Rossi to do -
*not* ride back onto the track?
Every other pass from Rossi was as clean as you like, on the brakes
and tucked inside.
--
Champ
Posted by T3 on July 21, 2008, 3:07 pm
>
>> "At the end of the day I'm not happy because I've made a mistake and it
>> has cost me the chance to win this race, but I also think that even if
>> he rode a great race, some of Valentino's moves early in the race were
>> too aggressive."
>> http://superbikeplanet.com/2008/Jul/080721a.htm
>
>> Even though I didn't see anything overly aggressive that doesn't mean
>> it didn't happen, but cryin' about it after you drop your bike in sand
>> comes off, well, a little "un-Champ" like, doncha' think? Mostly what I
>> saw was the master taking the youngster to school and very well done
>> too..
>
> I re-watched the first five laps today, and I really can't see
> anything that Rossi can be critcised for. The one 'incident' was
> where Vale went past on the way into the corkscrew (a nice clean
> move), and ran just into the dirt on the downhill part - he then came
> back on to the track a little out of shape, and Stoner had to move
> over a little. But really, what was Stoner expecting Rossi to do -
> *not* ride back onto the track?
Heh, I'd imagine he was surprised (as I was) that he didn't crash and
take them both out, much less come back leading! (That deal had
catastrophe written all over it and had it been anyone but Rossi prolly
would've been credited to dumbluck)
>
> Every other pass from Rossi was as clean as you like, on the brakes
> and tucked inside.
As good a 2 man race as you could ever hope to see and if there was any
bangin' they didn't show it on the tube over here...
Posted by sturd on July 21, 2008, 3:48 pm
T3 notes:
> As good a 2 man race as you could ever hope to see
Roger that.
>and if there was any
> bangin' they didn't show it on the tube over here...
What about the mess in turn 3, just after they came back
from commercial I think. A lap or two before Caseyboy
binned it. Stoner was past Rossi, Rossi crammed it under
him in 2 (maybe numbers aren't right but that double apex
left thing after start-finish), Stoner got a drive towards three
and was well inside Rossi and looked like anybody else
he was past. But not Vale. He braked even later then
leaned in on Stoner and Stoner had to back off to avoid
taking them both to the dirt or losing the front.
Hard move. I loved it.
Yep, be interesting to see how the whinging goes. Maybe
Caseyboy is smarter than Gibby and Max but I ain't placing
that bet.
Go fast. Take chances.
Mike S.
Posted by T3 on July 21, 2008, 5:18 pm
>> t on the tube over here...
>
> What about the mess in turn 3, just after they came back
> from commercial I think. A lap or two before Caseyboy
> binned it. Stoner was past Rossi, Rossi crammed it under
> him in 2 (maybe numbers aren't right but that double apex
> left thing after start-finish), Stoner got a drive towards three
> and was well inside Rossi and looked like anybody else
> he was past. But not Vale. He braked even later then
> leaned in on Stoner and Stoner had to back off to avoid
> taking them both to the dirt or losing the front.
>
> Hard move. I loved it.
Yeah, that one got me on my feet, err, foot, it was so awesome, I liked
the one where he rode around Casey on the outside too, though I'll be
dammed if I can remember where it happened right now. Suffice to say it
was one hell of a race and I was sorry to see Stoner drop it, as it was
shaping up as a for sure photo. But I got news for Casey, if he thinks
Rossi was too aggressive up to that moment, then it's prolly best he
did crash, because I'd imagine the last lap with Vale yesterday
would've been a minute 20 of "paint tradin'" (praticin' for DSB next
year%-) at it's best..
Btw, you see those Red Bull kid's bangin' coming to the flag? Killer, huh?
>
> Yep, be interesting to see how the whinging goes. Maybe
> Caseyboy is smarter than Gibby and Max but I ain't placing
> that bet.
He's got 3 weeks or so to spit the hook and mend the wounds, so, we'll
see. My take? Pediboi is prolly toast, so it'll be "bring it" time for
Stonah, but if Vale can keep both eyes on Casey instead of just one,
well, I'm not sure that Duc has enough black boxes, or pony's to
compensate for a fully engaged Rossi...
>has cost me the chance to win this race, but I also think that even if
>he rode a great race, some of Valentino's moves early in the race were
>too aggressive."
>http://superbikeplanet.com/2008/Jul/080721a.htm
>Even though I didn't see anything overly aggressive that doesn't mean
>it didn't happen, but cryin' about it after you drop your bike in sand
>comes off, well, a little "un-Champ" like, doncha' think? Mostly what I
>saw was the master taking the youngster to school and very well done
>too..